The Fastest-Growing Churches Have Modern Worship, Teach Literal Interpretation of the Bible: Study

Christian Post ^ | 11/30/2016 | Brandon Showalter

[cloudmountain]

Distorting the facts certainly is. And because of that, you don’t see.

WHAT facts have I "distorted?"
G'night, HT R

[HiTech RedNeck]

Ask a question then flee away?

You talk about getting a one time “holy dose.” The majority DO keep coming back. Putting the lie to your characterization.

[cloudmountain]

NO, they wouldn’t all be the same, because they are not robots. The RCC is expected to be the robots.

LOL. That SHOWS how little you know of the Church.
If you had done ANY reading of the saints of the Church, male, female, from whatever country, you would KNOW the infinite variety of personalities, perspectives, gifts, charisms, intellects, lives, etc.

THAT diversity has added much richness to the faith. But, you'd know that if you read up on the many saints. EVEN Protestants recognize Catholic saints. Why would they if they didn't follow on the coat-tails of so much of the Church?

I mean it now. G'night!!

[HiTech RedNeck]

Ultimately your situation devolves into an active debate over who the Infallible Shepherds really are, and the catty talk common to a lot of Catholic discussion threads seem to prove it out, plus showing that the prevailing attitude about it is worldly.

Jesus preached the ideal way to run the churches. Nobody else can run them ideally. They can run in sub-ideal manners because of the promise of Jesus, not by virtue of the way they run.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Oh sure you mean it, and you distorted what I said, but again I should have expected that.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Robotically means they gotta always get it right (whoever the real ones are). You had to drag in other implications of “robotic” that do not apply, obviously!

No apostolic succession authority promise was made — none. When the original witnesses were gone, so was the ability to run the churches with an infallible direction from that source. They still run with sufficiently corrected direction to achieve the Lord’s purposes of blessing.

[Elsie]

The study also showed that services at growing "churches featured contemporary worship with drums and guitars, while declining churches favoured traditional styles of worship with organ and choir."

My church teaches literally but switched from traditional music to mostly contemporary.

We STILL lost the young folks who, left wanting 'more'.

[Elsie]

There does need to be a modern sense of an expression of the faith while at the same time a conservative, Orthodox view of Christianity," he added.

True.

We can change the method of delivery of the Message; but not change the Message itself.

Luke 14:23

[Elsie]

There does need to be a modern sense of an expression of the faith while at the same time a conservative, Orthodox view of Christianity," he added.

True.

We can change the method of delivery of the Message; but not change the Message itself.

Luke 14:23 & 1 Corinthians 9:19-23

[Elsie]

[Elsie]

Someone who isn’t always Berean minded about what the preacher says, can get misled even in the best congregations.

True.

Why did Rome even give us the bible; if it is not complete in what we need to DO to insure us a place in Heaven?

[Elsie]

Never really understood the whole waving hands in the air thing.

It's in the Book...

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The wave offering or sheaf offering or omer offering (korban omer) was an offering made by the Jewish priests in token of a solemn special presentation to God (Exodus 29:24, 26, 27; Leviticus 7:20-34; 8:27; 9:21; 10:14, 15, etc.). The sheaf or omer or wave-offering then became the property of the priests.

Wave offering - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_offering

[Elsie]

Never really understood the whole waving hands in the air thing.

It now appears to be an expression of 'giving up' to God: submission to His will.

[Elsie]

Pew-sitters who think that they're being "Bereans" don't always get everything 100% right, either.

Amen, Brother!

I've found; as a lay bible teacher; that it's easier to teach what is in the Bible, than to un-teach what ain't!

[HiTech RedNeck]

Or, why did God sift a bible in to the church? (Not quite the same as being given it by Rome, the manuscripts all being of the first century AD.)

It takes spiritual experience to really “get it” — I am more and more convinced of this. I’m getting it better than I did at first, but am certain I still don’t get it perfectly yet. Understanding it better and better is part of the work of becoming spiritually mature. A lot of Christians don’t have deep difficulties, and they just coast and never get very deep into scripture. “Deep difficulties” could be my middle name.

I also greatly respect C. S. Lewis’ viewpoint. I get a sense he was hiding a life that was a lot harder than he ever lets on in his autobiographical work. He was not some cool, casual cat. He was an intense soul. And he started seeing striking commonalities, though not complete agreements, between the way Christian faith was exercised between various denominations. It is as though there were one central Voice in the midst of their deepest believers.

[Elsie]

Ah... Scripture!

Our pastor; in delivering the message; uses verses from the OT, some from the Gospels and some from the rest of the NT.

The three groups will shed some unifying light on just what he is trying to get across.

and it goes on the screen; too.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Shallowness will breed that kind of thing.

The Bereans didn’t pick up their scriptures just the prior day, so to speak. They’d been digging into them for a long, long time.

Without an overarching sense of the Christian story to guide, many passages seemingly can’t be reconciled.

[Elsie]

If someone is blessed financially by God, why critisize them?

We must first; I think; be sure that their blessing WERE from God to begin with.

[Elsie]

I don’t believe that the liberal churches are growing for even one minute.

Then where do the Libs and Dems go to church?

;^)