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To: angryoldfatman
There is nothing non sequitur about the Resurrection. It is THE center of the universe. All other philosophies are non sequitur and must submit to the Risen Lord, or fall by the wayside as the falsehood that they are. If there is no hell, there would be no need for Messiah to come and for His piercing on the cross. But what joy! He has risen and so shall we who believe that He lives at this very moment.

I will not engage in discussion of philosophies as they are all men's wisdom. God's foolishness of the cross surpasses such wisdom.
39 posted on 11/30/2016 9:58:09 AM PST by georgiegirl (Count me in the half that's in the Deplorable Basket)
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To: georgiegirl

If there is no hell, there would be no need for Messiah to come and for His piercing on the cross.


For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


Stop with the non sequitur browbeating. The reason for the Resurrection is above, in the poetry of the Apostle John.

Eternal torment is unnecessary for the Resurrection. You have confessed already that the Pharisees knew of the Resurrection before Jesus was born, yet they knew nothing (until long after their scriptures were written) of an eternal hell.

You insist on trying to shoehorn a parable told by Jesus into Christian doctrine, when the parable was a device used to illustrate the hardness of the Hebrew priests’ hearts.

The mention of Abraham’s bosom (is that your idea of eternal reward?) and the last line of the parable “And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead”, are clues to its lack of relevance as doctrine, and more as an illustration to the immediate audience.

Now, until you have enough faith to shove a mountain in a particular direction, let’s refrain from using hyperbole and obvious storytelling devices as hard, concrete doctrine.


40 posted on 11/30/2016 3:57:29 PM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: georgiegirl

I will not engage in discussion of philosophies as they are all men’s wisdom.

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Then do not discuss Hades, the invention of men and their supposed wisdom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_underworld

http://facultyblog.eternitybiblecollege.com/2012/07/how-plato-messed-up-the-church/#.WD9t_vkrI1I


42 posted on 11/30/2016 4:23:57 PM PST by angryoldfatman
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