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To: Mr. Douglas
This is told by Jesus Himself, talking about a place called Hades where there is torment:

Luk 16:19-31 "There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man's table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried.

In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire'. But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.'

He answered, 'Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.' Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.' 'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.' He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'
25 posted on 11/29/2016 5:01:02 PM PST by georgiegirl (Count me in the half that's in the Deplorable Basket)
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To: georgiegirl

Lazarus and the rich man is a parable. It is not about hades. It is not about the eternal fate of the lost. It is about Judah and his five brothers not believing even when Jesus is raised from the dead.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=lazarus+and+the+rich+man+parable

This is a long but effective rundown of the whole thing:
https://bible-truths.com/lazarus.html

Also, Hades is translated, “the grave”. It is not the eternal fate of the lost, but the fate of all men after the body dies. It is thrown into the “lake of fire” and utterly destroyed.


26 posted on 11/29/2016 5:26:37 PM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: georgiegirl

Jesus’s disciples understood Greek mythology, Greek being the dominant language spoken in non-Roman lands.

Hades was strictly a place in Greek mythology where the dead went after life. It also involved torment for wrongdoers. Think King Tantalus, for example.

This plus the synthesis of Greek philosophy and scriptural doctrine by the early Church (Plato in particular - ever wonder why angels are always depicted as females? Plato said the immortal soul was female) is what Christianity latched onto with regard to the afterlife.

This also contradicts all Hebrew scripture including the Torah and Tanakh, which Jesus preached from.


35 posted on 11/30/2016 6:21:00 AM PST by angryoldfatman
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