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To: editor-surveyor; Iscool; Greetings_Puny_Humans
James and Paul explicitly stated that Doers of the law, not hearers of the law would be justified.

Sure they would. If anyone could actually ever DO the Law. ALL of it. PERFECTLY.

Nobody can (Except Jesus) and since nobody else can, we all come under the condemnation of the law.

And since we are under the condemnation of the Law for failing to keep it, then it cannot justify us because we have not kept it perfectly.

Your whole argument is self-defeating as you have not proved that anyone can keep the law.

Tell me, where do you go for the required yearly sacrifices? If you haven't, you have broken the Law.

Did you observe the last year of Jubilee? If you haven't, you have broken the Law.

Where do you bring your first fruits offerings? If you haven't done that, you have broken the Law.

You appealed to Matthew and the Beatitudes.

Have you followed the INTENT of the Law as expressed there? PERFECTLY? Never looked on a woman to lust after her? EVER?

Never hated your brother?

Always gone the extra mile? ALWAYS?

Does your righteousness exceed that of the scribes and Pharisees? Then you are not entering the Kingdom of Heaven.

73 posted on 10/03/2016 1:09:18 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; Iscool; Greetings_Puny_Humans

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>> “Sure they would. If anyone could actually ever DO the Law. ALL of it. PERFECTLY.” <<

You have to know that is far from what they meant!

They and also the other apostles made it clear that Torah is exactly what is required to be a part of Yisrael.

If you are not Yisrael Yeshua does not know you!

>> “Your whole argument is self-defeating as you have not proved that anyone can keep the law.” <<

Then you are saying that Yeshua and all of his apostles lied to us?

They all said that Torah is easy; where do you get the idea that it is even slightly difficult?

It is nowhere in the word to be found.

>> “Tell me, where do you go for the required yearly sacrifices?” <<

The required sacrifice has been made. That is how Yeshua was able to renew the covenant.

>> “Did you observe the last year of Jubilee?” <<

Do you even know what the jubilee is, or where it is required? Do you even know when the last jubilee was?

Of course you don’t or you would never have posted such an absurd question.

The jubilee, like Shemitah, is only for the land.

You should read the same scriptures that Yeshua and the apostles preached, so that you will not again embarrass yourself.

The last jubilee was at Tishri 1, 5967, and in that year, the land was indeed returned to its rightful owners.

Daniel’s 70th week will commence on the next jubilee,just as the scriptures say, on Tishri 1, 6017. Do you have even the foggiest notion what that means?

>> “You appealed to Matthew and the Beatitudes.” <<

I have nothing against the beatitudes, but no I did not! Where do you get that idea?

>> “Does your righteousness exceed that of the scribes and Pharisees?” <<

Yes, of course! The Pharisees had absolutely no righteousness. That is what Yeshua constantly declared throughout his ministry. They took away his Torah, and laid the “burden that could not be borne” on his sheep!

You really don’t know this?

Have you not ever read the woes he pronounced upon the Pharisees?

Churchianity seems to be holding you prisoner!
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81 posted on 10/03/2016 9:56:59 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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