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To: daniel1212; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; boatbums; CynicalBear; dragonblustar; Dutchboy88; ealgeone; ...
Then trad. RCs condemn divisions among evangelicals while they themselves must engage in the same.

Rather ironic that they celebrate diversity among themselves and yet still claim to be in communion with each other, and yet when those outside Catholicism are diverse, RC's are condemning it as being an indication the error of *sola Scriptura* and it's proof that Protestantism is not the OTC.

18 posted on 09/25/2016 5:04:13 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

To be fair, despite our differences in dealing with/explaining the post-Vatican II crisis in the Church, traditional Catholics hold to the same pre-Vatican II Faith. Of course there are some who call themselves traditional Catholics, but they merely “prefer” the Latin Mass over the Novus Ordo service. For them, the only issue is the liturgy and they see nothing wrong with Vatican II other than its so-called “ambiguities”.


21 posted on 09/25/2016 5:49:58 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: metmom
You know that, although I disagree with you on some matters theological, I often praise your excellent efforts here and seldom pick fights with you. OTOH, it is not at all fair to accuse "traditional Catholics" of "celebrating diversity among themselves." We do nothing of the sort. Right now, we are trying to figure out how to exclude an apparent pope like Frankie from the Church.

The "married" lesbian music directors with the clenched fists at St. Michael's in Ireland and their infernal excuse for a pastor are NOT Catholic whatever the circumstances of their baptisms, if any. Nor are Pelosi, Rosa DeLauro, Patty Murray, John Kerry, Tim Kaine, Susan Collins, and a host of other once Catholic political apostates. They have excommunicated themselves.

It goes without saying that there is "diversity" among the Reformed. Protestantism cannot be the One True Church because Protestantism, as such, is not one. Protestant churches contain much truth and many truths which differ in some respects from church to church. In and of itself, such differences prove nothing other than that "Protestantism" has many principled variations and is not "one."

Sola Scriptura assumes, without proof, common agreement on what Scripture truly teaches. On their own, neither Catholics by their own talents, nor Reformed Christians by theirs agree completely on the entire meaning of Scripture.

23 posted on 09/25/2016 11:07:36 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em, Danno!)
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