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To: chuckles; metmom
Well, if you are unteachable, I guess I'll dust of my sandals an move on. I thought we were having a conversation here. I guess I was wrong. Go to your church at Sardis and have a good time. If you don't want what God has for you, I guess that's it.

For the record, I've seen God's hand on my life, moving marvelously. Metmom, like me, clearly believes in the power of prayer and is a regenerated believer who loves Christ and is loved by Him. Neither of us deny the power of God, or would claim that there are no miracles.

What we simply deny is the absurdity and unscriptural practices of the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement. That's all. It is entirely Biblical to do so, to "try the Spirits," and to try the supposed "miracles" like tongue speaking or gold dust from heaven or flopping on the floor like a fish.

Because we do so does not make us inferior Christians or members of an apostate church. It makes us Christians doing our best to have discernment and follow the commands of God as written in scripture.

As for "if you don't want what God has for you." For the record, again, I was a Charismatic for a number of years. What they "had" was false prophecy, delusion, and legalism. Their tongues were not tongues. Their slaying in the spirit were not slayings. They barely even had the Gospel. A friend of mine told me, who also came out of it with me, that she didn't even understand the Gospel until after she left their movement. Why? Because the whole movement is dependent on extrabiblical miracles and revelations.

Does that mean we do not believe in miracles and "extrabiblical revelations"? No. We pray for knowledge, for guidance, for help in our times of trouble. We simply do not believe in the clearly abusive and unedifying practices that contradict the holy scripture.

33 posted on 09/24/2016 8:54:00 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
I've also been involved in Pentecostal churches and while I don't consider myself Pentecostal, have been on the receiving end of the Pentecostal mindset and it did me no good.,

One thing I've noticed in even supposedly solid Pentecostal churches, is a HUGE emphasis on the Holy Spirit and signs and wonders, the power, the gifts of the Spirit and not so much on Jesus and His work of redemption on the cross and the FRUIT of the Spirit and dying to self and being transformed in our minds to the likeness of Christ. The Holy Spirit is mentioned and sought after far more in those churches than Jesus is.

In general, Pentecostals are always looking for their next experience and are what I call *experience junkies*. There's the pervasive thinking that if they haven't had their tongues, or dream, or vision, or word of knowledge, or whatever manifestation they are looking for, something is wrong with their spiritual life.

That is not walking by faith. It's walking by sight(experience).

There's also the problem that if you aren't doing Christianity their way, there's a tremendous spirit of judgment and condemnation. You aren't as spiritual as them. You haven't arrived yet. You are not part of the inner circle of *have's*.

If they think that God isn't working in your life in the way they tell you He should be, through healing, financial deliverance, whatever, then there's sin in your life, you don't have enough faith, or whatever they choose to blame on you.

34 posted on 09/25/2016 5:41:37 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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