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To: Redmen4ever
I also like when the Catholics say, in consecrating the wine, “fruit of the vine and work of human hands".

Interestingly enough, this is not mentioned in the offertory of the Traditional Latin Mass. With this,

"The Novus Ordo alters the nature of the sacrificial offering by turning it into a type of exchange of gifts between God and man. Man brings the bread, and God turns it into "the bread of life"; man brings the wine, and God turns it into "spiritual drink"

http://www.cfnews.org/page88/files/d92d8ddabcc9d54bd493c7880b81d305-146.html

6 posted on 09/05/2016 8:37:42 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: piusv

The Bible says that Jesus gave the blessing and then added a few words.

Barukh ata Adonai Eloheinu, melekh ha’olam, hamotzi lehem min ha’aretz

transl.: Blessed are You, LORD our God, King of the universe, Who brings forth bread from the earth.

To which Jesus added, Take this and eat, for this is my body.

Barukh ata Adonai Eloheinu melekh ha’olam borei p’ri hagafen.

transl.: Blessed are You, Lord our God, Ruler of the universe, who creates the fruit of the vine.

To which Jesus added, Drink from it, all of you. This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. I tell you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until the day when I drink it anew with you in My Father’s kingdom.

The traditional Jewish blessing does not explicitly recognize the role played by humans in our joining with Jesus in the Passover. So, I am happy that the Catholics have recognized that through our work, we join with God in the creation, and also through our work, we join with Jesus in redemption.

Praise be to God!

The Traditional Latin Mass that you quote talks of this “exchange of gifts.”

Here are the words of the New Translation of the Liturgy of the Eucharist
http://www.diocesefwsb.org/Data/Resources/9a0592fcbdc6cce74f7bdf95c5415a85-Article-10-The-Liturgy-of-the-Eucharist.pdf

Blessed are you, Lord God of all creation,
for through your goodness we have received the bread we offer you:
fruit of the earth and work of human hands, it will become for us the bread of life.

and then

Pray, brethren (brothers and sisters), that my sacrifice and yours
may be acceptable to God,
the almighty Father.

We know that our works are but filthy rags in the sight of the Almighty God, who is Holy. But, they are sanctified by Jesus.

A happy Labor Day to you brother. May all those who work recognize their brotherhood, including both those who sign the front of the pay check and those that sign the back.


7 posted on 09/05/2016 9:03:58 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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