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To: WrightWings
A number of the popes believe in Fatima. JPII even attributes the apparition with saving him from an assassin's bullet. He even declared the Message of Fatima imposes an obligation of the church.

http://www.fatima.org/crusader/geof/V.asp

As I noted earlier....roman catholics like to have it both ways on "Mary".

None of it is supported by the Word though.

We do not avoid the hell-fire by wearing a piece of cloth.

Hell is avoided by having faith in Christ and Christ alone.

It is His death on the cross that keeps us out of the hell-fire.

He made the sacrifice. No one else.

189 posted on 08/20/2016 8:09:23 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
A number of the popes believe in Fatima. JPII even attributes the apparition with saving him from an assassin's bullet. He even declared the Message of Fatima imposes an obligation of the church. http://www.fatima.org/crusader/geof/V.asp As I noted earlier....roman catholics like to have it both ways on "Mary". None of it is supported by the Word though.

We do not avoid the hell-fire by wearing a piece of cloth.

Hell is avoided by having faith in Christ and Christ alone.

It is His death on the cross that keeps us out of the hell-fire.

He made the sacrifice. No one else.

I am sorry that you take Papal comments as an Ex Cathedra Statement from the Church -- You are *wrong* in making that false assumption.

You noted *NOTHING* as Offical Catholic Teaching on Mary and/or her role as an Inspiration in our spiritual life.

The Catholic Church teaches that *O-N-L-Y* Jesus can allow us the Hope of Salvation --- Wearing peices of cloth, or asking Mary (or any other Saint) to pray for us, are only images that help us sinful humans aspire to a more Faith-Filled Life, and influence the Faithful as to their hopeful desire of being ever closer to Christ...

201 posted on 08/20/2016 8:29:43 PM PDT by WrightWings (Remember, Remember, the Fifth of November...)
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To: ealgeone
A number of the popes believe in Fatima. JPII even attributes the apparition with saving him from an assassin's bullet. He even declared the Message of Fatima imposes an obligation of the church. http://www.fatima.org/crusader/geof/V.asp As I noted earlier....roman catholics like to have it both ways on "Mary". None of it is supported by the Word though.

We do not avoid the hell-fire by wearing a piece of cloth.

Hell is avoided by having faith in Christ and Christ alone.

It is His death on the cross that keeps us out of the hell-fire.

He made the sacrifice. No one else.

I am sorry that you take Papal comments as an Ex Cathedra Statement from the Church -- You are *wrong* in making that false assumption.

You noted *NOTHING* as Offical Catholic Teaching on Mary and/or her role as an Inspiration in our spiritual life.

The Catholic Church teaches that *O-N-L-Y* Jesus can allow us the Hope of Salvation --- Wearing peices of cloth, or asking Mary (or any other Saint) to pray for us, are only images that help us sinful humans aspire to a more Faith-Filled Life, and influence the Faithful as to their hopeful desire of being ever closer to Christ...

203 posted on 08/20/2016 8:41:49 PM PDT by WrightWings (Remember, Remember, the Fifth of November...)
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