“This whole tedious discussion springs from the fact that some people ignore the topic (reasonable modesty in sports dress) and reconfigure some detail into an offense and an occasion for huffing, just because it involves Muslim volleyball players who dress like Muslim volleyball players.”
Your casual dismissal of the violence faced by mid-east women is as offensive as people who dismissed the original point on modesty. I stated that had the original author made their point without that example, I would have agreed with much of it.
Rather than not the area of common ground, you chose to defend the bad example by pretending I disagreed with “everything”. You have not addressed the two facts:
1. It was a poor example because that team got crushed and thus did not support his claim that the uniform doesn’t matter from a competitive standpoint.
2. That particular team did not have the freedom to chose a different uniform (at least not without the threat of violence) and thus were a poor example in encouraging others to “chose” modesty.
Another team was available that did well, and did have the freedom to chose. The original author should have made a better choice.
I did not casually dismiss violence against women, and neither did Msgr. Pope.
It would be analogously stupid to say you “casually dismissed” violence against women by failing to mention that women are groped, assaulted, battered and raped by non-Muslim men, and not least when they are wearing bikinis.
You’re reduced to nothing but repeatedly imputing offenses we did not commit. I consider this discussion over.