Where have you been?
Posted on 08/12/2016 3:59:59 PM PDT by ebb tide
“Except when He says “Whoever eats[s] my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.” One must turn back from this hard saying and not walk with Him.”
Only a hard saying for Jews at the time.
Yes, that was my point. Lutherans know that Luther was a Catholic. We have high regard for Mary as well, but the ridiculous things attributed to her, the power, the stature by the Catholic church are repellent as idolatry. Since Luther isn’t a Pope, what possible difference could it make? It is not a scriptural position.
FCA'ers?
Only a hard saying for Jews at the time.
Including the twelve. But they trusted Jesus completely and continued walking with Him, waiting for Him to more fully reveal His truth.
Then we do agree on this point, that other than the virgin birth of Jesus, Lutherans are very quiet on what Luther wrote about Mary.
You don’t trust Jesus completely when He says get behind me, Satan?
Because nobody cares, personal opinion. Do you have a study on the Pope's favorite color? (Red btw) Lutherans care what the Bible says about Mary.
You DO trust completely the fella that Jesus said to, "get behind me, Satan?"
The Book that Rome assembled is very 'quiet' about the things Mary said during her lifetime.
But Rome; in it's infallible wisdom; has detected; in the penumbra of Scripture; many things that Mary 'really' meant to say, but never got around to speaking.
Muslims must care even MORE!!
And remember Mary in the Book, when she withdrew from her family to an eastern place. And she veiled herself from them. Then We [God] sent unto her Our Spirit [the angel Gabriel], and it assumed for her the likeness of a perfect man. She said, "I seek refuge from thee in the Compassionate [i.e., God], if you are reverent!" He said, "I am but a messenger of thy Lord, to bestow upon thee a pure boy."
She said, "How shall I have a boy when no man has touched me, nor have I been unchaste?" He said, "Thus shall it be. Thy Lord says, ‘It is easy for Me.’" And [it is thus] that We might make him a sign unto mankind, and a mercy from Us. And it is a matter decreed.
So she conceived him and withdrew with him to a place far off. And the pangs of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a date palm. She said, "Would that I had died before this and was a thing forgotten, utterly forgotten!" So he called out to her from below her, "Grieve not! Thy Lord has placed a rivulet beneath thee. And shake toward thyself the trunk of the date palm; fresh, ripe dates shall fall upon thee. So eat and drink and cool thine eye. And if thou seest any human being, say, ‘Verily I have vowed a fast unto the Compassionate, so I shall not speak this day to any man.’"
Then she came with him [the infant Jesus] unto her people, carrying him. They said, "O Mary! Thou hast brought an amazing thing! O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not an evil man, nor was thy mother unchaste." Then she pointed to him [Jesus]. They said, "How shall we speak to one who is yet a child in the cradle?"
He [Jesus] said, "Truly I am a servant of God. He has given me the Book and made me a prophet. He has made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and has enjoined upon me prayer and almsgiving so long as I live, and [has made me] dutiful toward my mother. And He has not made me domineering, wretched. Peace be upon me the day I was born, the day I die, and the day I am raised alive!"
I do trust Jesus completely.
The Book that Rome assembled is very ‘quiet’ about the things Mary said during her lifetime.
Yeah, it’s a good thing they left out the Proto Evangelium of James. That goes beyond what even Catholics believe.
Maybe that explains the RCC Catechism entry for Muslims.
No but He DID command them to submit to their authority, which Luther, Calvin and Henry VIII did not do.
You misread the passage. Greek would help.
Christ said the teachers claim the authority of Moses by sitting in his seat in front of the synagogues, teaching the Law.
Christ says to do what the Law teaches and *not* do what they do.
Every Jew was under the authority of the Law as a covenant with Israel.
He then went on to excoriate them with 7 woes
- and by the way, many of those apply to the leaders of Roman Catholicism.
You rang? :-)
Where have you been?
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