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Martin Luther was a ‘teacher of the faith’, say [Catholic] German bishops
Catholic Herald ^ | August 12, 2016 | Jonathan Luxmoore

Posted on 08/12/2016 3:59:59 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: ealgeone
"There are no examples of praying to or for the dead in the New Testament or the OT.

Surely you are not suggesting Christianity be governed by Scripture!

181 posted on 08/13/2016 6:23:24 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ealgeone
There are no examples of praying to or for the dead in the New Testament or the OT.

Is that right? Cherry-picking again?

[46] It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins. 2 Maccabees 12

Or did Luther excise that quote also from your personalized bible also?

You display a pathetic knowledge of the bible.

182 posted on 08/13/2016 6:28:38 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ealgeone

Is making the sign of the cross idol worship?


183 posted on 08/13/2016 6:33:41 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; ealgeone

Look who’s talking. Another scripture cherry-picker.


184 posted on 08/13/2016 6:36:15 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
If only 2 Maccabees were a part of the OT you might have something.

But again you don't.

You suggest I display a lack of Bible knowledge. My Bible has plenty of admonitions against idol worship. That scapular you claim you wear falls into that category.

I don't know what you hang up with Luther is. I don't follow him.

I follow Christ. And He never said anyone needs to wear a piece of cloth to avoid the hell fire. So no. The catholic who relies upon the piece of cloth to keep them out of hell is displaying a disdain for the words of Christ.

But it's not too late. There is forgiveness for all sins.

Ditch the scapular and read John 5. John 5:24 is what you're looking for.

I'll ask again....do you believe His promise He made in John 5:24?

185 posted on 08/13/2016 6:42:51 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I know!


186 posted on 08/13/2016 6:43:24 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
If only 2 Maccabees were a part of the OT you might have something.

As I've stated numerous times upthread, protestants, starting with the heretic Luther, have excised and edited the bible to their own personal whims.

187 posted on 08/13/2016 6:47:46 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
See Luke 11:51 for an understanding of the OT books. You might also want to study up on the apocrypha.

Meanwhile, you continue to avoid the question regarding John 5:24. It should be a simple yes or no answer. But if you're relying upon the scapular that's probably your answer.

You've yet to offer any verse to substantiate your reliance upon an idol to keep you out of the hell-fire.

188 posted on 08/13/2016 6:58:27 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
I don't know what you hang up with Luther is. I don't follow him.

You've already stated that. You don't seem to follow anybody in your "Church of Me".

It appears, nobody, e.g., Luther, Jesus Christ, the Holy Ghost or real Catholic saints, exactly knows what scripture says except for you. Aren't you special!

189 posted on 08/13/2016 7:03:17 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Look who’s talking. Another scripture cherry-picker.

Sorry ebb! You're wrong again. I accept all the inspired verses - every single one.

I just work hard to understand what is said and then believe it.

I don't need to make Scripture support an idea that came from paganism. There isn't any Scriptural support for that stuff. So of course, I have to reject it.

If you want to believe that stuff, that's on you bro.

190 posted on 08/13/2016 7:08:27 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ebb tide
I know it doesn't have anything to do with a scapular.

Still won't affirm or deny John 5:24 I see.

191 posted on 08/13/2016 7:20:05 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I just work hard to understand what is said and then believe it.

One who has to work hard to understand the bible is one who desires to twist it to his own whims, as Luther, Calvin, Zwingli and Knox all did .

I recommend you exercise a little bit of humility.

[2] And Jesus calling unto him a little child, set him in the midst of them, [3] And said: Amen I say to you, unless you be converted, and become as little children, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. [4] Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, he is the greater in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew Chapter 18.

192 posted on 08/13/2016 7:31:41 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ealgeone
Now this may make your protestant head explode, but I'm willing to take the risk.

Brown Scapular Miracles

193 posted on 08/13/2016 7:38:06 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
"One who has to work hard to understand the bible is one who desires to twist it to his own whims,

Your posts sound like they come from someone completely unfamiliar with the Scriptures bro. I hope some hacker has your account password and it's not you posting like that:

"Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth. - Timothy 2:15 - The Apostle Paul

I recommend you exercise a little bit of humility.

Humility is finding out what God says in His word and submitting to Him in belief and obedience. That requires diligence, as He commands.

194 posted on 08/13/2016 7:40:07 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ebb tide
More diversions I see...still nothing on John 5:24?
195 posted on 08/13/2016 7:46:04 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

What about it? I don’t cherry-pick the Bible. I don’t reject John 5:24. If you took time to read further you would see:

[25] Amen, amen I say unto you, that the hour cometh, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God, and they that hear shall live.

[26] For as the Father hath life in himself, so he hath given the Son also to have life in himself: [27] And he hath given him power to do judgment, because he is the Son of man. [28] Wonder not at this; for the hour cometh, wherein all that are in the graves shall hear the voice of the Son of God. [29] And they that have done good things, shall come forth unto the resurrection of life; but they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment. [30] I cannot of myself do any thing. As I hear, so I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of him that sent me.


196 posted on 08/13/2016 7:58:00 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

If you’re counting on the scapular to keep you out of hell you’re rejecting the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross to forgive you of all of your sins.


197 posted on 08/13/2016 8:01:06 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

The problem is that you and your protestant “bros” are quoting a deformed “scripture”, excised and edited by a heretic named Martin Luther.

I just quoted Maccabbes 2 earlier, only to be told that that book was not in that poster’s personalized bible.

Why should I engage with prots who reject the original bible?


198 posted on 08/13/2016 8:05:53 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.b)
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To: ealgeone

Don’t you worry about my soul.

Rather, worry about your own.


199 posted on 08/13/2016 8:08:58 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.b)
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To: ealgeone

You don’t know what I’m counting on.

I don’t even dare speculate what you’re counting on. All I can do is pray for you.


200 posted on 08/13/2016 8:11:24 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.b)
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