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The Rapture – Indisputable Christian Heresy
Preachers Institute ^ | 04-10-2010 | Fr. Anthony M. Coniaris

Posted on 07/27/2016 8:46:41 PM PDT by NRx

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To: huldah1776
I don't suppose it would do any good to point out a couple places in that argument that are, shall we say 'in error' because of conflating The Time of Jacob's Troubles (The Jews) with the Body of Christ, the True Church Jesus established, right?

Find the correct path un studying the Rapture of The Church, The Body of Christ relies heavily upon comprehending who is the Restrainer Who restrains the revelation of anti-Christ at this time [ 2 Thess 2:5 Don’t you remember that I repeatedly told you about these things when I was still with you? 6 You know what it is that is now holding him back, so that he will be revealed when his time comes. 7 For the secret of this lawlessness is already at work, but only until the person now holding it back gets out of the way. ]

241 posted on 07/28/2016 6:19:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
LEFT BEHIND first published in 1995. People were expecting the end to come then but it didn’t, so a series was written. Too many people I know spent all their time reading this series and not reading the Bible. These books are available cheap at any second hand store, Salvation Army, Goodwill, yard sale, ect, as People finally realized they are FICTION and tossed them out.

"Available at fine garage sales everywhere!"

I personally dislike religious fiction, except Pilgrim’s Progress. I would rather read the Pilgrim’s Progress or Homer’s Odyssey any day.

What, you don't like Amish romances?

242 posted on 07/28/2016 6:42:54 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means.")
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To: Wilhelm Tell
You're so far off you're not even wrong! Where is that huge source of straw you're tossing around?

First, GOD does not have plan B.

Read, actually READ the Revelation of John; there will be sacrifices AMONG THE JEWS in the Millennial kingdom.

CHRIST IS THE ONLY SACRIFICE that can cancel Once For All Forever. EVERY real born from believer knows that. Do you need further help understanding that?

A real dispensationalist does not hold that 'the old testament interprets the New Testament'. That foolishness is on you.

NO ACTUAL Christian would endorse your foolishness: "Christ is there to point us back to the Law." Catholicism on the other hand does precisely that with all the sacramental fealty required in order to strive for salvation in catholiciism. Christians actually read the Bible and know what Paul said regarding Faith and the law. You would do well to open the Bible occasionally without catholic colored glasses.

243 posted on 07/28/2016 7:13:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: volunbeer

Hear here! Correctamundo! HOWEVER, the doctrine of immanence does help many turn away from sin they are tempted to because they wouldn’t want to be mired when the transformation happens.


244 posted on 07/28/2016 7:16:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: NRx

What an utterly useless jibe, from someone claiming to be of the same religion as the one who first translated the Greek text into Latin, giving satan the name Lucifer.


245 posted on 07/28/2016 7:18:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: mdmathis6
I like your reasoned analysis...(”So after eternity is over with, Satan shall be loosed from prison to go about the earth to deceive the nations...Ya right!!!”) Heh heh! What you said and more! You win the eschatology discussion awards of the internet for the day!

Some of them do read this stuff...And then they let themselves be talked out of the simple, clear, plain words of God...

Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

These are the words God told John to write down...What idiot is going to claim that God didn't really mean that at all???

And then they go and write books on what God didn't say...They erect councils to verify and AGREE upon what God did not say, anywhere...And the duped just follow the pied piper...

246 posted on 07/28/2016 7:18:40 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Ransomed

ASK GOD! He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him, seek His words.


247 posted on 07/28/2016 7:19:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Talisker

What a prime example of the Catholic haughtiness ...


248 posted on 07/28/2016 7:21:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
What a prime example of the Catholic haughtiness ...

What is?

249 posted on 07/28/2016 7:25:53 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: NRx
Your source mangles the Greek, adding words to change the meaning to suit the belief the author wants to promote.

The author, and apparently you do not see it there before you, conflates the elect alive during the Tribulation (the Jews primarily) with the Body of Christ. Again error made on purpose to skew the reasoning.

If this sort of writing is tingling your ears, better dwitch bookstores.

250 posted on 07/28/2016 7:29:31 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Ransomed
IF you are convinced that faithing in Jesus is some difficult task, I would see why you are confused as to whom leaves in the Rapture. JESUS identified the ones He will take back to His Father's House, when He explained the simplicity of salvation in John 3, analogous to the brass snake episode, if you want to look back into the first five books of The Bible.

A better place to spend contemplation is in regard to what will be such a great lie that the whole remaining worls are mostly taken in by it; additionally, the lie is not even heard by the ones who have/are/and will be faithing in Christ.

251 posted on 07/28/2016 7:34:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Talisker

You really believe that insult is based in truth? Why do you suppose we Christians pray for God’s Spirit to awaken the twisted minds of sexual degenerates?


252 posted on 07/28/2016 7:36:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Carthego delenda est

I live alone. Recently, I lost my dear Miss Kitty to Lymphomas. I will not take in another house pet because I believe the Rapture is that near, and I would not want a dear little one left unattended to starve or worse. The world will be extremely chaotic even minutes after the apostasia, the departing.


253 posted on 07/28/2016 7:42:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Ransomed

I know some Catholics to whom I have offered access to what I have ‘set aside’ and I do give away ‘tools’ to those likely to be left behind, for their defense.


254 posted on 07/28/2016 7:45:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
You really believe that insult is based in truth? Why do you suppose we Christians pray for God’s Spirit to awaken the twisted minds of sexual degenerates?

What insult do you think I'm saying is based in truth?

Do you take Jesus's declaration of the role of His Greatest Commandment as an insult? Or are you just pissed that Jesus is commanding you to love people you've declared as sexual degenerates with twisted minds?

And why are you taking it out on me? Is it Jesus's Greatest Commandment, or not?

It's incredible, Christians quote the Bible all day long, but when I quote the Greatest Commandment, they get enraged. Where does that come from?

255 posted on 07/28/2016 7:46:20 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

If you are ever born from above, I assure you your perspective will change and you attitude will change, and you will begin to actually KNOW the one Whom you are using as you foil on this thread.


256 posted on 07/28/2016 7:49:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
If you are ever born from above, I assure you your perspective will change and you attitude will change, and you will begin to actually KNOW the one Whom you are using as you foil on this thread.

Incredible. No experiences, no thoughts, no understandings are legitimate other than yours. No appreciation for testimony. Zip. And on top of it, some weird smack at Catholicism, which I never mentioned.

You want to know weakness? Real weakness is declaring that God is so small that the only human being on the planet with a legitimate spiritual experience is you - and people who agree with every word you say.

The infinite God looks at your tiny mind with pity. And Jesus says, Lord forgive him, for he knows not what he does.

P.S. You know that Greatest Commandment?

It still stands.

257 posted on 07/28/2016 8:00:10 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: sailor76

Are you also a Mormon, like Storm Prepper?


258 posted on 07/28/2016 8:07:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: wardaddy

Read John 3, the whole chapter. But pay close attention tot he analogy JESUS used with Nicodemus regarding the Brass Snake Moses raised upon a pole. The healing from the poison was immediate, without cancellation, and so simple all one had to do was LOOK at the snake believing God made this provision for the snake bites! When men add stuff to that simple formula JESUS taught to Nicodemus, THAT is where the Gospel gets gnarled up.


259 posted on 07/28/2016 8:13:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN; StormPrepper
Are you also a Mormon, like Storm Prepper?

No, and never will be.

That said, after reading these threads; Buddhism is looking better and better.

260 posted on 07/28/2016 8:15:44 PM PDT by sailor76 (GO TRUMP!!! Make America Great Again!)
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