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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Do you not believe what the angel Gabriel told Mary, that with God all things shall be possible? I do. I also believe what Jesus tells us. And Jesus did tell us that the bread He took and blessed was His body.

If you want to believe that He was being symbolic, by all means, go ahead. I believe He means it when He says the bread that is given us to eat is His body.


111 posted on 07/25/2016 9:05:38 PM PDT by rwa265
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To: rwa265

“believe He means it when He says the bread that is given us to eat is His body.”

Then why didn’t the Apostles believe that? They were actually in the room when Christ said those words, yet there is no evidence of any Apostle carrying it out as if the elements could change.

How is it that you came to a different belief and practice than the Apostles?

Why do you choose to believe what they never did in practice.


112 posted on 07/25/2016 9:28:00 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: rwa265
Catholiciism is all about symbolic ritual, yet where JESUS's teaching uses symbolic to manifest REAL SPIRITUAL meaning and thus affect the spirit of the human, your religion blinds the adherents in favor of the carnal, thus making the adherents guilty of the body and blood. Paul explained it to the Corinthian believers, the new converts to The Lord Christ, but you've chosen to skew his teaching to suit the carnal blasphemy of Catholic Mass.

Romans 8:5-7 Those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. The mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

114 posted on 07/26/2016 4:46:54 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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If you want to believe that He was being symbolic, by all means, go ahead. I believe He means it when He says the bread that is given us to eat is His body.

And yet Jesus also says that the SPIRIT gives life, the FLESH is no help at all.

Eating the flesh and blood of Jesus, in violation of God's commands throughout Scripture, does not impart spiritual life, much less physical life.

The SPIRIT gives that spiritual life. A person is born from above, born again in the SPIRIT.

Those who worship God worship Him in SPIRIT and truth.

It seems that Catholics are so physical world oriented that they do not have any concept of the spiritual realm that we inhabit and that exists all around us.

There is spiritual reality operating all around us that we cannot sense with our senses, and we live and move through that as well. The New birth is a SPIRITUAL experience/happening that is NOT caused by physical actions.

118 posted on 07/26/2016 5:50:30 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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