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To: Rurudyne
But we can all too often discern those who are presently not saved based on their overt actions or the clear theological stances they actually profess.
Someone high handedly living in sin, while claiming to be saved, and also working to arrogate God’s Word is certainly just such an instance. Arguably the clearest example of such. Working to arrogate Scripture alone should qualify.
As for 'empowering"
Yes, there is certainly a desire to see all be saved; but, that does not empower any hypothetical arguments to that effect.

All true.
And, yet people can repent over and over again, can't they? They can repent on their deathbed. We wouldn't know that nor would we know of any true contrition in their heart. THAT is God's bailiwick.

I'm not arrogating to empower any arguments, hypothetical or not. I am JUST DISCUSSING. No lacuna in my logic at all.

You used "handedly" incorrectly. It's used with adverbs, not alone AS an adverb. Unless, perhaps, you took the "new" English classes offered in public schools these days.

-handedly, combining form in adverbs corresponding to adjectives ending in -handed (such as heavy-handedly corresponding to heavy-handed ).

77 posted on 07/18/2016 5:51:29 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

“Handedly” is part of “high handedly” and it’s use is correct, referring to, in this case, the arrogant, arbitrary and unlawful assumption of the right to basically amend the Scriptures, altering what they say or mean.

And I was not accusing you of arrogating the Scripture: rather that is in reference to those who do so, as in the case of “christians” who set aside the demand for repentance because some sin has become socially acceptable. Naturally this mean those who actively do so.

Please don’t think I’m accusing you of stuff, certainly like we are talking about here.

Still, in the case of sexual sins, it is not homosexuality alone we are told to flee, but simply sexual sin. That includes heterosexual adultery and fornication and not just outright perverted acts. Of course Christ said that lust itself was the real issue not to be played with and He equatied it to actual adultery. So I’m hardly surprised that when confronting a worldling about porn they often act just as upset as if I had just encouraged them to be a prude from now on (now, in these licentious times, deemed a negative in every respect).

When someone thinks their illicit sexual escapades are what it means to pursue happiness they really don’t like God’s expectation that we be suitably chaste and pure people.


78 posted on 07/18/2016 6:48:39 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: cloudmountain
They can repent on their deathbed.

They might repent someday, but if the church decides to put openly unrepentant persons in positions of authority it is more or less demonstrating that repentance is not intended or they think no sin occurs. They also are thus willing to disregard and reinterpret a few thousand years of teaching on scripture while totally disregarding the opinion of a large percentage of their members. To arrogate is to take over.

79 posted on 07/18/2016 6:50:38 PM PDT by alrea
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