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| July 16, 2016
| William Of Barsoom
Posted on 07/16/2016 7:54:14 AM PDT by William of Barsoom
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To: PAR35; William of Barsoom
My former in-laws were given a copper beech to plant when they got their house. Nice looking tree some 30-ish years later.
To: William of Barsoom
WARNING: Redwoods, and all of the other "Cypresses" in "Cupressaceae" [Italian Cypress, Eastern North American Swamp Cypress, Asian Metasequoia, etc] will be killed by a poison called
JUGLONE, which is secreted by walnut trees, and especially by BLACK WALNUTS!!!
So if you decide on a Redwood [or any other "Cupressaceae" Cypress], then you must be certain that no juglone-emitting plants are growing in the immediate vicinity [and especially no Black Walnuts].
Also, any planted tree MUST HAVE A DEER FENCE AROUND IT. At both the beginning of the "antler" season, and at the end of the "antler" season, the stags will rub their heads on the bark of your tree and destroy it [apparently the rubbing eases the pain of both growing & losing the antlers]. The stags particularly love rubbing their heads on the evergreen trees - there's something about the "creosote sap" in an evergreen which seems to drive them crazy.
And what you will quickly come to discover is that building the deer fence around your specimen tree is VASTLY MORE DIFFICULT & EXPENSIVE & TIME-CONSUMING than planting the tree itself.
But if you try to cheat, and skip the deer fence, then the stags will quickly destroy your $100+ specimen tree.
Anyway, here are a few recommendations for Central North Carolina:
NOT RECOMMENDED IN NORTH CAROLINA:
*** Sequoiadendron [Mountain Redwood] - always dies within the first season
*** Canadian Hemlock - too hot in the Sandhills, also woolly aphid [adelgid] infestation
*** Atlas Cedar - struggles and looks horrible throughout Central North Carolina
*** Purple European Beech - vulnerable to disease
*** Italian Cypress - must be planted next to a warm building to survive the winter; also needs staking/supports to maintain its vertical form
RECOMMENDED IN NORTH CAROLINA, via seed or transplanted from the wild:
*** North American Beech - nurserymen don't grow this because the tap root goes too deep
*** North American Holly - easy to transplant from the wild
*** Slippery Elm - possibly the single most beautiful tree in all of North Carolina
RECOMMENDED IN NORTH CAROLINA, via nursery stock:
*** Boxwood [English or American] - very very very slow growing, but thrives in North Carolina
*** Sequoia sempervirens [Coastal Redwood] - if you can keep it away from JUGLONE
*** Deodar Cedar - always seems to thrive & is very long-lived
*** Princeton Elm - resistant to Dutch Elm Disease, new growth might need spraying for beetles
*** Chinese Douglas Fir - has yew-like needles, very long-lived, resistant to the diseases which kill the Pacific Northwest Douglas Fir
Finally, here is a quick list of some very nice nursery stock to be found in Central North Carolina:
Camellia Forest; Chapel Hill, NC
[on-site stock is much larger than shipping stock on the website]
Coastal redwoods, Deodar cedars, Chinese Douglas Fir
Kiefer Nursery; Durham, NC
Coastal redwoods
Taylor Nursery; Raleigh, NC
Princeton Elm
To: William of Barsoom
There are now four very productive apple tree breeds that prosper and produce fruit in the heat of central Arizona. They were developed in Israel and do not require a freeze to fruit.
In a single season, one such tree produced enough fruit to make over 20 gallons of applesauce.
While they do not live as long as shade trees, they make up for it with the gifts they provide.
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posted on
07/16/2016 10:51:42 AM PDT
by
yefragetuwrabrumuy
("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
To: William of Barsoom
Mimosa. Beautiful tree easy to grow. Subtle perfumy smell kind of like Honeysuckel. Can start from a branch cut.
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posted on
07/16/2016 11:19:18 AM PDT
by
386wt
To: William of Barsoom
One other thought would involve WATERING.
The best time to plant trees is circa November 1st, after things have cooled down, and we get regular rains, but before the ground becomes too muddy [or too frozen] to be worked with a shovel.
And if you plant circa November 1st 2016, then, with any luck, you wouldn't have to water the tree again until circa June 2017.
Whereas if you plant the tree in the dead of summer, then you're looking at twice-weekly heavy waterings through July & August & early September, and at least once-weekly heavy waterings through late September & October.
And if you don't have a working spigot with a hose nearby, then moving water is HARD WORK.
Water is very heavy, and it spills at the drop of a hat, and it's very messy to get it onto the plant.
If you don't have specialized equipment [a water tank with hose, mounted on a towable trailer], then you're talking about filling up the back of your pickup truck with gallon jugs of water and driving out there to water the tree - upwards of TWICE WEEKLY - which would be an insane amount of work.
And even if you do have a working spigot within a hose's reach of the tree, someone still has to drive out there and water the tree several times a week [just unfurling the hose and watering and then looping the hose back up is a fair amount of work].
Also, the other nice thing about waiting until the November timeframe is that many nurseries will have big sales going on at that time of the year, since it's the slow season, and they need to move any product that they can get out the door.
Often you can find very nice specimen trees at up to 40% off, circa November/December.
To: 386wt
NO!!!
The Mimosa is badly invasive in North Carolina.
Don’t plant a Mimosa unless you fully expect them to start seeding everywhere in the neighborhood.
We have more than enough invasive species with all of these illegal alien Obama voters.
To: William of Barsoom; greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler
Pinging some of the FR gardening group.
Looking for a recommendation for trees in sandy South Carolina.
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posted on
07/16/2016 12:12:10 PM PDT
by
texas booster
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To: William of Barsoom
http://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/records/usa/northcarolina/
“Thickest, tallest, and oldest trees in NC”
Redwood and sequoia are both listed as growing and getting big in the state.
http://www.post-gazette.com/life/travel/2007/07/20/Mighty-trees-stand-tall-in-North-Carolina-forest/stories/200707200305
Tulip poplars are listed as 450 years old, 150 feet tall, and 10 feet in diameter in the state (not my favorite tree, but that’s impressive). Other prominent native trees include: basswood, American beech, Eastern white pine, oak, sweet birch, maple, yellow buckeye, magnolia, sourwood and white ash. I particularly like any native oak for the symbolic and real strength, although another tree on the list might come to mind as a better match to the man being remembered (such as white ash if baseball was a big part of his life).
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posted on
07/16/2016 12:46:14 PM PDT
by
Pollster1
(Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
To: Aevery_Freeman; IronJack
Black walnut trees: Beautiful, but beware - black walnuts, especially older ones that have become a bit moldy, can be poisonous to dogs.
These trees also produce a poisonous substance called juglone that is toxic to many other trees and plants. Even after a black walnut tree has been removed, the juglone toxin may contaminate the soil for years. I have seen this happen in my own backyard.
To: William of Barsoom
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posted on
07/16/2016 1:07:38 PM PDT
by
Georgia Girl 2
(The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
To: JBW1949
You need to go to your favorite deli and order one...My favorite deli is the Bagel Deli on East Hampton Ave. in Denver, so I'm afraid I'll be unable to make it today. But, they have the best mile-high stacked New York style corned beef sandwiches I've ever had.
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posted on
07/16/2016 1:08:04 PM PDT
by
gigster
(Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
To: William of Barsoom
I see several have suggested the redwood tree. There are numerous redwoods in NC, with several on the Biltmore Estate being among the largest trees in the state. There is a notable stand of redwoods in Wilson.
It’s not a typical tree for NC, though. If planted as a memorial, I’d think a redwood would work for someone originally from California.
There are quite a few species of magnolia that would do well there, some being unusual. That might work. Climate sounds amenable to live oak, which grows into a stunning tree but it takes centuries to get there.
To: William of Barsoom
Stay away from the Sweetgum tree. Very beautiful tree but those spikey seed pods are insane.
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posted on
07/16/2016 1:21:14 PM PDT
by
Godebert
(CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
To: Godebert
LOL I have a couple of those in my yard.
Don’t want to step on them barefoot.
To: Godebert
They’re very fast-growing softwoods, too. “Junk trees” that would be busted up in the first heavy wind storm or ice storm.
To: nascarnation
I stepped on some on the sidewalk and went down hard.
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posted on
07/16/2016 1:32:27 PM PDT
by
Godebert
(CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
To: Godebert
To: Godebert
I’ve seen where people have collected the pods, sprayed them silver and/or gold and used them for Christmas decorations, so they’re not entirely useless, lol.
To: texas booster
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posted on
07/16/2016 1:38:04 PM PDT
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
To: RegulatorCountry
Had one massive brach from the Sweetgum come down in a storm and took out the neighbors car. So sad.
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posted on
07/16/2016 1:40:33 PM PDT
by
Godebert
(CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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