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To: editor-surveyor
> I have added nothing but you have dodged much.

You are ignoring the salient conclusion Peter gave:
Now therefore why are you putting God to the test by placing on the neck of the disciples a yoke that neither our ancestors nor we have been able to bear? On the contrary, we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.

> The key point in Acts 15 was that the new believers could not learn Torah in a weekend.

No, it’s not… but that’s not in question here.

> For that reason they stated the minimum needed to keep out of trouble, since they were expected to be hearing Moses read every Sabbath day, where they would come up to speed in much the same way that the House of Judah had in their youth.

Look at what Peter said:
Now therefore why are you putting God to the test by placing on the neck of the disciples a yoke that neither our ancestors nor we have been able to bear?

Look at what the scripture says:
For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to impose on you no further burden than these essentials: […]

By placing the Torah into the list of necessities you ARE putting God to the test by “placing on the neck of the disciples a yoke that neither our ancestors nor we have been able to bear.”

Thus you have added.
I’ll speak plainly here: you are acting against God’s Holy Spirit by requiring the Law (Torah; adherence thereunto implied) as a necessity, indeed you are testifying that Jesus’s work on the cross is insufficient and indeed inferior to the Law. But the Law does not save, it can only condemn. It is in the scriptures, plainly:

Galatians 5:4 — “You who want to be justified by the law have cut yourselves off from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.”
Romans 8:3 — “For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh,”
Galatians 3:21,22 — “Is the law then opposed to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could make alive, then righteousness would indeed come through the law. But the scripture has imprisoned all things under the power of sin, so that what was promised through faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.”

74 posted on 07/07/2016 2:57:22 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: Edward.Fish
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You are in deep need of Bible study!

I see what your problem is now.

You don't understand what the “yoke” Peter was speaking of even is.

Torah is not a yoke, it is our hope and ultimate liberty.

The yoke is what Yeshua spent most of his 70 week ministry dismantling: the Takanot and Ma’assim of the pharisees.

The nonsense that they had spent the entire second temple period attempting to add to Yehova’s word. Every miracle Yeshua performed was done to destroy one of their takanot.

The first one was “the washing of the hands,” where he made wine in their ceremonial washing pots.

Violating Torah is what puts Yehova to the test. The false commandments of the pharisees are all violations of Torah.

Peter warned about those that twist what Paul wrote to the Galatians.

2Peter 3:

[15] And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
[16] As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

75 posted on 07/07/2016 3:23:33 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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