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To: Arthur McGowan
Thomas More is saying clearly that we are not governed by divine law? No. That is not what he is saying. We are most certainly governed by divine law...all the way up to the pope.

Besides, using Thomas More's comments in this context was not even applicable here. He was speaking of English Law....not even Church Law.

Regardless, God has already "arrested" Francis according to the teaching of the Catholic Church re: manifest heretic "popes". Here is just a couple:

Heretics and schismatics are barred from the Supreme Pontificate by the Divine Law itself, because, although by divine law they are not considered incapable of participating in a certain type of ecclesiastical jurisdiction, nevertheless, they must certainly be regarded as excluded from occupying the throne of the Apostolic See, which is the infallible teacher of the truth of the faith and the center of ecclesiastical unity” (Marato, Institutiones luris Canonici [1921] 2:184).

“Appointment to the Office of the Primacy. 1. What is required by divine lawfor this appointment... Also required for validity is that the one elected be a member of the Church; hence, heretics and apostates (at least public ones) are excluded....” “If indeed such a situation would happen, he [the Roman Pontiff] would, by divine law, fall from office without any sentence, indeed, without even a declaratory one. He who openly professes heresy places himself outside the Church, and it is not likely that Christ would preserve the Primacy of His Church in one so unworthy. Wherefore, if the Roman Pontiff were to profess heresy, before any condemnatory sentence (which would be impossible anyway) he would lose his authority” (Coronata, Institutiones Iuris Canonici [1950] 1:312,316).

34 posted on 06/28/2016 6:33:59 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: piusv

What More is pointing out is that God doesn’t arrest people, and in that sense we are not governed by divine law.

Actually God DOES arrest everybody—eventually. At death. Which, in the play, More points out to the judges at his trial. Eventually, More was canonized, and his judges are in Hell.

In the meantime, More’s head was cut off, and Bergoglio is “Pope.”

You don’t need to keep cutting-and-pasting material about the papacy, and who is “really” Pope or not Pope, blah blah blah. No intelligent person doubts that Bergoglio is a rotten Pope. Maybe he isn’t “really” Pope!

My point is that it makes absolutely no difference to you and me. We are not in a position to do anything about it. Bergoglio is going to die someday, and he will receive a Pope’s funeral.

There is nothing you or I can possibly do except point out that Bergoglio is spewing nonsense (the Global Warming Hoax) and heresy (shack-ups are really married).


35 posted on 06/28/2016 9:29:40 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: piusv

As I said before, go to Rome, snatch Bergoglio’s beanie off his head, and tell him to his face that he is not Pope. Then get back to me and tell me what happens next.


36 posted on 06/28/2016 11:27:03 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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