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To: SGNA; piusv; ebb tide

This will ultimately unfold on its own. VC2 was a reaction to the ineffective VC1, which was an ineffective reaction to the, um, Protestant Reformation. Bringing up Traditionalism to my existing clergy, indeed, resulted in defensiveness and a little bit, frankly, of Projection ("THEY are the rebels!").

Thankfully, I remain in Communion. But I am being self-serving. My praise is done in my home, and I hate that.
43 posted on 06/23/2016 5:12:29 PM PDT by SunLakesJeff
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To: SunLakesJeff

Jeff, just be open to God’s Grace. It does take time.

The author of this article did not hold the Papal See as vacant either until about 15 years ago.


46 posted on 06/23/2016 5:19:14 PM PDT by SGNA
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To: SunLakesJeff
On the contrary, The Council of Trent and the Society of Jesus were both extremely effective against the Protestant Revolt. The problem lay in the dictum of the religion of the ruler being decreed as the religion of his subjects. It was to the financial and power benefit of princelings and assorted nobility to apostasize in order to seize Church property in their fiefdoms.

Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent

The Vatican Council of 1869-1870 that issued the exact definition of papal infallibility, while directed at the errors of Protestantism and Freemasonry in that regard, was brought about by the secular insurrection and overthrow of the Papal States by Freemasonry.

49 posted on 06/23/2016 5:34:12 PM PDT by SGNA
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