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To: Mrs. Don-o
Catholicism maintains Mary had taken a vow of chastity and affirmed that in Luke 1:34. There was a thread posted by someone who claimed catholicism that tried to address this. However, the poster never explained the Greek behind this statement which refutes the catholic position.

If the catholic claim of Mary's perpetual virginity is true she entered the marriage under false pretenses as outlined by the pope which would render their marriage null if we're understanding this claim.

112 posted on 06/19/2016 10:26:23 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
Mary would not be "full of grace" nor "blessed" nor a good woman at all, if she were a liar; nor would the Incarnation of Our Lord be predicated upon a lie or upon God adulterously taking a married woman, "understood in the normal sense" as being married to someone else.

God is all-honorable and all-just. He doesn't "do" adultery.

Therefore though Mary was in one sense of the word, "legally" married to Joseph, we can safely presuppose that both Mary and Joseph knew she was not married married to him "understood in the normal sense" --- and therefore she was not lying to Joseph nor guilty of marital fraud towards him. A mutual vow of chastity (I presume that here you actually mean abstinence) would not be false if Joseph had known and agreed.

If he did NOT know, then, yes, it would be marital fraud on the part of Mary; and God would be committing adultery.

This is why the Muslims do not believe in the Gospel account of the Incarnation. They say it casts God as an adulterer.

I think the Muslims are wrong of course. But they have a logical point: if one thinks Mary had a "normal" marriage agreement with Joseph, you have to contemplate the "divine adultery" of God impregnating somebody else's wife. Which is, I would say, a blasphemous thought.

121 posted on 06/19/2016 1:29:53 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
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To: ealgeone
If the catholic claim of Mary's perpetual virginity is true she entered the marriage under false pretenses as outlined by the pope which would render their marriage null if we're understanding this claim.

Not to worry: that is only a valid basis for annulment if the pope did not grant a dispensation, who is as God, and thus since Mary had God's sanction then it was as good as the pope's. But David and Abishag the Shunammite is another case, married or not.

308 posted on 06/20/2016 8:49:58 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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