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To: imardmd1
Thank you for the interesting correction. Is there some reason for the insult? ... "Please take these facts into account when you formluate your own preferred doctrinal belief in the symbology..."
813 posted on 06/10/2016 1:14:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: MHGinTN
I had to leave the FR discussion for a couple of days, so I apologize for not seeing your reaction to this comment and answering it right away. You said:

Thank you for the interesting correction.

The comment I posted to you was not intended with the sense of "correction" at all. It was not a criticism, but just an observation of the equally reasonable interpretation that the bread of the upper room supper was leavened bread, not unleavened bread. Many, if not most, of the casual Bible readers assume the bread of that meal would be the same that would be prepared for the Pharisee's Passover, when it need not be. I was just apprising you of that possibility, not insisting on it.

Apparently you assumed that, though my words were carefully chosen to be neutral, you read them as an attack, and apparently replied combatively:

Is there some reason for the insult?

Of course, if one reads what I said with an open mind, willing to search the scripture to see if it be so, this kind of response would not even be on the horizon. There was no offense intended or expected.

Regarding formulating one's own doctrinal platform, I personally hope and expect that fellow spiritually-minded Christians will have done so, for themselves, under the guidance of the Holy Ghost, with affirmation by its agreement with the overall context of Biblical testing of it (not as a catechumen reading the error-laden accumulations of fallible men). Furthermore, I count that such an observer will test anything of a scripturally-based answer that I give on this site; and if he/she has a different or expanded view, their reply will be rendered in that sense also. Why I take this view is to comply with the Lord's admonishment:

"Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. " (Mt. 24:23-24 AV).

"And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many" (Mk. 13:5,6 AV).

I do not expect that a solidly founded regenerated mature regenerated believer-disciple will dogmatically take what I say, or that of any other fallible human, as his/her only advice, but rather act as a Berean learner would have. "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid." (Jn. 14:26,27 AV).

"These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him" (1 Jn. 2:26,27 AV).

Beloved Brother, let not your heart be troubled. Keep a more noble mien than the spiteful mindset that the Romanites seem to be trying to egg you into. They won't read our responses nor believe in checking them out if you and I don't address them from a higher plane (which they can't attain, being without heavenly help). Remember the Proverbs on this.

Regarding the leavened bread (like today's pita bread) versus crackers (matzoth) in the Remembrance, for some sects this is a little bit dicey and debatable, so it takes a careful approach, with the investigator having the need to check one's teaching on this with respect to scripture, language, and history.

To me, the bread represents (1) the body of Jesus on the cross, bearing (leavened with) our sins on the Tree of Calvary, and (2) also symbolizing His local assembly(s), none of which visible earthly gatherings is yet purified in our dispensation. (This is a problem that the Bishop of Hippo found great difficulty dealing with and arrived at, to me, an unsatisfactory answer.)

We might also consider that the scripture makes no defensible account that fermented liquor of crushed grapes was in the cup shared by Jesus with the disciples. That itself is worth a study, eh?

844 posted on 06/11/2016 11:52:19 AM PDT by imardmd1 (The LORD says: "I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire" Is. 54:16)
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