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As Mormonism apologist usually, you ignore a vast array of Bible passages...

Everything you say revolves around Joseph Smith. The reason would be because you have no message of your own. In reality, you have nothing and this proves it.

Receiving the Holy Ghost does not equal salvation. The Holy Ghost was given because Christ was leaving them. For those on the right path the Holy Ghost was help them along their journey to salvation.

I find it ironic that you claim I ignore the Bible when in fact I don't ignore any of it. Actually, I understand what the prophets were teaching. I understand how it fits into the larger whole. All of it. I don't ignore a single page.

What I also find ironic is in fact it's you that ignores nearly all the writers of the Bible. As a matter of fact I've never seen anyone force square pegs into round holes like you do.

Matt 25: 32-46 destroys every conclusion you've come up with of when and how salvation is received. Jesus granting salvation at the judgement after His commandments were followed. Plain as day. The words are explicit.

The damned are damned because they failed to do what He commanded them to do. Again the words are explicit.

Rev 11 destroys your whole notion of religion and your place in it.

Here's proof that you ignore the Bible, because you will ignore this, completely. I doubt you'll even acknowledge it 2 Tim 3. Powerful, powerful scripture.

1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

Paul sees a vision of our time. The last days and he lists a whole slew of bad attributes what will be pervasive at that time.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection,...

He goes on and on...But his real point comes next..

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

Having a form of godliness. People that go around claiming to be godly. Claiming they're already saved....every religious preacher or confessor since the great apostasy started in the 1rst and 2nd century....all those creeds that sprang up afterwards that were created by men and everyone that follows them. They talk about God, they talk about being saved. But they don't know anything about either. They have form of godliness, but not the real thing. This is what Paul was seeing...

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

They read their Bibles and create conclusion after conclusion. They created their own concepts of God...but they never get to the actual truth...

8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

Jannes and Jambres were priests in Pharaoh's court, who resisted Moses, the prophet of their time.

What Paul is describing is people who claim to be "Christian" but don't actually know the truth and they reject the true prophet of their time.

Here's something else for you to reject. Jesus Himself proclaimed what was going to happen to all those people that Paul saw in vision.

Luke 13. All the people that go around claiming they believe in Jesus, but never learned and followed the truth. They actually rejected the true prophets...Jesus said it all.

John explicitly talked about two of those true prophets in that here in our time. They are on the earth right now...

For Jesus to actually know you, you have to be on the right path leading to salvation and exaltation.

27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

It was recorded again, Jesus teaching the same thing over again in Matt 7.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord,..

People like you that claim to be saved...

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Jesus' own words. But wait, how can that be MHGinTN? According to you if you profess Jesus is Lord, you're saved. But not according to Jesus....

Matt 25 again... if you're not doing the works as shown explicitly in Matt 25: 32-46...He doesn't even know you.

May God have mercy upon your lost soul. Look at the meeting Jesus had with Nicodemus, John 3. Read it all. Then know that your demonic error is wrapped in taking verses out of context, thus assigning what Jesus said to a particular audience for a particular stage at the Great White throne, and applying it deceitfully across whatever band you choose to mislead over.

I don't hate people like you; I pity you. Satan has your mind so wrapped up in the heresies and blasphemies of your chosen religion that Truth has little chance of penetrating the demonic armor.

And just so readers get it more accurately, the Holy Spirit of God came into those new believers at Pentecost BECAUSE they had been cleansed in spirit and were added to the body of believers:

Response to Peter's preaching on the day of Pentecost:
Acts 2:37 When the crowd that had gathered heard this, they were pierced to the heart. They asked Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what should we do?”
38 Peter answered them, “Every one of you must repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus the Messiah for the forgiveness of your sins. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a gift. 39 For this promise belongs to you and your children, as well as to all those who are distant, whom the Lord our God may call to himself.”
40 Using many different expressions, Peter continued to testify and to plead: “Be saved,” he urged them, “from this corrupt generation!” 41 So those who welcomed his message were baptized. That day about 3,000 people were added to their number.

The Ekklesia is the body of believers. 3000 were added to that Ekklesia that day. These are the ones Jesus has delivered from the wrath to come. Unlike Mormons/Mormonism apologists, they didn't work their way to worthiness, they believed and have been counted thereby to receive His Spirit in them.

But of course, because Mormonism has taught you that Jesus is 'a' god, and The Father is 'another god' and the Holy Spirit is 'another god' it is impossible for you to grasp that Jesus gave the Holy Spirit, as an earnest of the greater inheritance, to these who believed and we who believe today.

He is coming back soon to remove the Ekklesia from the Earth, before the wrath of God begins being poured out on those who have refused God's Grace in Christ. Worthy is the Lamb to open the seals. Horrific will be the wrath of The Lamb who offered to take away your sins if you would only believe in His Grace.

This sentence twists Jesus's Grace into a lie, that you believe instead of the Truth Jesus taught to Nicodemus: "For Jesus to actually know you, you have to be on the right path leading to salvation and exaltation."

The great and demonic lie is that 'you are on a 'path', working your way to be worthy of Grace. Jesus knows those who are His. We hear His voice and follow him, not Joe 'the serial adulterer' Smith. Your cult has the cart before the horse, Mormon. Believing in Christ as Savior IS faithing in Christ to deliver from the wrath to come. You don't follow some 'path to exaltation' to salvation. He saves by His Grace by my belief in Jesus, and that exalts JESUS, not me. You want to find yourself some exaltation ... how disgusting and what a spittlefest at God's feet.

Post number 52 will give you insight into what and how far from Truth Mormonism is ... it is shocking to read such twisted misuse of Scriptures, the first time you see it. After a couple of decades exposed to the cult’s heresies I’ve become thoroughly intolerant of their service to lies.

Matt 25: 32-46 destroys every conclusion you've come up with of when and how salvation is received. Jesus granting salvation at the judgment after His commandments were followed. Plain as day. The words are explicit.

So the Lord said that they obtained salvation - becoming children of God and having their names written in the book of life, and made to sit together with Christ in the heavens - because of their works, versus being made accepted in the Beloved on His account, appropriated by faith, or that they realized final salvation because their works testified to them having real faith, which faith=works God rewards, though man owes all to Him, while what man deserve is damnation?

But the God who rewards faith is one who always was God, not a product of eternal progression, with multiple wives, and an elitist carnal prophet who is in Hell.