I'm not arguing with you about the words Jesus said, only the way you have come across in your interpretation of those words. Please answer the question I have asked you now for the fourth time:
Did the Son of God exist before the incarnation?
I am speaking of the second person of the Trinity and His preexistence from all eternity. He did not become the Son of God when He took on human flesh. Jesus, the incarnation of God, now exists in a glorified body - the kind of body ALL believers will receive at the resurrection unto life. But, we will NOT be God(s).
I disagree with the Catholic doctrine of Mary being the "Mother of God" precisely because the Son has always been and always will be. Mary is the mother of Jesus, who is God with us, God incarnate.
**I’m not arguing with you about the words Jesus said, only the way you have come across in your interpretation of those words.**
For example?
**Please answer the question I have asked you now for the fourth time: Did the Son of God exist before the incarnation?**
You mean that this verse I quoted doesn’t provide an answer?:
“..These things saith the Amen, the faithful witness, the beginning of the creation of God;” Rev. 3:14
**He did not become the Son of God when He took on human flesh.**
“Thou art my Son, this day I have begotten thee?” Heb. 1:5 (Ps. 2:7)
I don’t know about you, but I read a beginning right there.
“I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son”. Heb. 1:5
Will be,....shall be?? Looks like a beginning to me.
For Sola Scriptura folks, defining God as the scriptures define him is a must. The phrase the ‘Son of God’ is quite plain: the Son is of God. God gave the Son his beginning, which was before anything else.
Jesus Christ is the image of the invisible God, not ‘God the image’.