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To: Mrs. Don-o
When He said "This is my Body," and said "Do this," that indicates they too were to say "This is my Body" and it would be, in truth, His Body. They can't do it if they meant their own bodies (if "My" body meant "Fr. Strohmeyer's body") so it must be the offerer is not doing his own action, but participating mystically in the one action, the one sacrifice of Christ. It is Christ, only, who can say "This is My Body" and makes it so.

This understanding of the Lord's Supper does not appear in the NT during the time of the Apostles. It happened later in history and is read back into passage, as you are doing. He says do in rememberance, not do over again. For a discussion of the historical development of the Eucharist, see Daniel1212's post on this thread. There isn't a reason for me to rewrite it.

It is worth noting in this discussion, that Christ's Sacrifice did not happen during celebration of the Passover, but the following day on the cross. There is nothing in Christ's Words that indicates the wine nor matzoh turned into His actual Body or Blood. There is every reason to understand His Words as metaphorical - just as the celebration of the Passover did not again re-sacrifice the lambs as on Passover, nor apply their blood to the doorpost. It was a remembrance of a historical event that was commanded to be carried out every year as a remembrance. So is the Lord's Supper - in memory of Him.

Concerning Malachi: he speaks of a future time when, "from the rising of the sun to its setting" --- which means all around the world, east to west --- there would be a pure sacrifice among the Gentiles.

In a Temple, by Levites.

This refers neither to a sacrifice at Jerusalem, nor a sacrifice amongst the Jews. It specifically refers to everywhere in the world, and among the Gentiles.

I thought you were referring to a different passage in Malachi. Sorry I confused the situation. This from Malachi 1:11:

“For from the rising of the sun even to its setting, My name will be great among the nations, and in every place incense is going to be offered to My name, and a grain offering that is pure; for My name will be great among the nations,” says the LORD of hosts.
The passage says an offering of incense and a grain offering would occur among the nations. I note it says nothing about real body or real blood being involved. Nor does it mention wine.

Best, as always.

58 posted on 04/27/2016 6:41:00 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: daniel1212

forgot to ping you bro’


59 posted on 04/27/2016 6:41:53 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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