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To: ADSUM
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Specifically, we’ll examine the words of Christ to Peter and the apostles: “Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” As CCC 553 says, Christ here communicated not only authority “to pronounce doctrinal judgments, and to make disciplinary decisions in the Church,” but also “the authority to absolve sins” to the apostles.

These words are unsettling, even disturbing, to many. And understandably so.

The first point to note is that the Apostles are all now dead, bodily. There are no longer any of the Twelve Apostles still alive, not even in the catholic religion.

The second point is a strange attribution by the catholic religion over the terms bind and loose. The quote of Jesus you offered is not the quote where Jesus specified forgiving the sins of men.

You claimed the quote conveyed 'but also “the authority to absolve sins” to the apostles'. There is such a passage, but you didn't quote it, and of course there are no longer ANY of the Twelve Apsotles yet among us to carry out these functions. Catholicism erroneously claims that Apostolic Authority regarding sins is conveyed from Peter right to the present Pope and catholic priesthood. The authority to manage the ekklesia particulars is separate from the authority to forgive sins of men. And therein is the way catholic deception is foisted upon the unwary.

154 posted on 04/28/2016 10:06:25 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Meant to ping you, since the post to which I responded was originally spittle toward you.


155 posted on 04/28/2016 10:07:25 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: MHGinTN

As you have indicated that you do not accept all of the teachings of Jesus Christ and His Catholic Church, I accept His teachings.

Just as Judas was replaced by another apostle, Matthias.

“Then they gave lots to them, and the lot fell upon Matthias, and he was counted with the eleven apostles.” Acts1

The Church continued through the successors to the Apostles who were ordained and continued the mission of Jesus to Preach and Baptize all nations.

During his public life Jesus not only forgave sins, but also made plain the effect of this forgiveness: he reintegrated forgiven sinners into the community of the People of God from which sin had alienated or even excluded them. A remarkable sign of this is the fact that Jesus receives sinners at his table, a gesture that expresses in an astonishing way both God’s forgiveness and the return to the bosom of the People of God. (CCC 1443)
In imparting to his apostles his own power to forgive sins, the Lord also gives them the authority to reconcile sinners with the Church. This ecclesial dimension of their task is expressed most notably in Christ’s solemn words to Simon Peter: “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” The office of binding and loosing which was given to Peter was also assigned to the college of the apostles united to its head. (CCC 1444)
The words bind and loose mean: Whomever you exclude from your communion, will be excluded from communion with God; whomever you receive anew into your communion, God will welcome back into his. Reconciliation with the Church is inseparable from reconciliation with God. (CCC 1445)


161 posted on 04/28/2016 11:05:31 AM PDT by ADSUM
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