It’s sure a good thing that Catholics tell us that they don’t worship Mary cause otherwise nobody would ever know that that sort of thing wasn’t worship.
I find it comical that the primary verse upon which catholicism hangs its hat on this issue, Luke 1:34, cannot be shown by the catholics to say what they want it to say.
Their understanding is beyond eisegesis(reading something into the text that's not there) and borders on fraud.
“Its sure a good thing that Catholics tell us that they dont worship Mary cause otherwise nobody would ever know that that sort of thing wasnt worship.”
Is it possible that Western Protestants haven’t been Christians long enough to understand a prayer like the Akathist? Maybe Western culture, mostly dog vomit these days and firmly rooted in Atheism, makes it impossible for you folks?
BTW, your post is the first I’ve seen from a non-Orthodox Freeper which recognizes Orthodox as Catholics. In fairness to the Latins, most every Marian belief they have came from us.
Indeed. Where or where do we see anything even approaching this manner of adulation given to any created being in the Holy Spirit-inspired Scriptures, let alone even one word of praise to Mary in the life of the church.
As said before,
One would have a hard time in Bible times explaining kneeling before a statue and praising the entity it represented in the unseen world, beseeching such for Heavenly help, and making offerings to them, and giving glory and titles and ascribing attributes to such which are never given in Scripture to created beings (except to false gods), including having the uniquely Divine power glory to hear and respond to virtually infinite numbers of prayers individually addressed to them
Which manner of adulation would constitute worship in Scripture, yet Catholics imagine that by playing word games then they can avoid crossing the invisible line between mere "veneration" and worship.
Moses, put down those rocks! I was only engaging in hyper dulia, not adoring her. Can't you tell the difference?
Caths should only do (and I should do more of) what Mary and every believer in Scripture did in praying to Heaven, which was to pray directly to the Lord, not saintly secretaries. But they must truly become born again for that.
Instead, Caths basically say,
As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the Lord, we will not hearken unto thee. But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes... (Jeremiah 44:16-17)
Would this be an example of "rabble rousing" or "christian charity"?