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To: MHGinTN

“I am the living bread come down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.”

By your lights, the early Church fathers, those who sifted through the religious fragments after AD 33, examined the practices of the early Christians, interpreted and assembled the Written Word of God, we call the Bible; the long litany of saints and martyrs, converts included, and the constellation of scholars, historians, and theologians, all got it wrong, and id for for a millennia and more!


73 posted on 04/09/2016 10:44:18 AM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
Perhaps you are beginning to comprehend the comparision of a wide gate and a narrow gate ... by your 'light' Jesus violated the Laws God authored, on the very night before He willingly went to the Cross as The Lamb of God Who takes away the sin of the world. Jesus at the end of the Passover, as He passed the third cup and then fourth cup of wine, called it fruit of the vine. Was He lying?

Have you ever even sought to learn the significance of the Passover cups, what they commenmorate?

Did Jesus tell His disciples to do this thereafter in Rmemebrance of His sacrifice of His body and blood coming on the morrow? OR did He tell them to be sure and eat and drink His literal, un-crucified flesh and blood on the establishment of The Lord's Table?

Would Jesus profane the Passover Seder, BEFORE going tot he cross? If you answer that He would not, then the first Lord's Table Remembrance would either be with unsacrificed flesh and blood, or would be a spiritual metaphor for what He was about to sacrifice for them and you and me? Jesus was handing to them the matzoh and wine, alive, there in their midst, not yet crucified. How can catholiciism command you that the first Eucharist was on that night, yet in catholic ritual Mass you are commanded that you eat the crucified body and blood (and SOUL and DIVINITY, like the Baal worshippers)?

If you are unable or unwilling to see these conflicting catholic assertions, then you are still walking without His light. You are striving along under the magicsteeringthem candle-powered dictates, which are not from God.

74 posted on 04/09/2016 11:17:52 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: Steelfish

You might also want to look a little deeper in the Hisotry of the church Jesus established upon the profession of Faith, because this image of ‘sifting through religious fragments’ is quite wrong. Polycartp was a direct student of John and probably met Philip and Andrew when he/Polycarp was a young man. In his letter to the Philipians he either quotes directly or alludes to teachings from all 27 of the eventual New Testament canon. In AD 100 there was already the entire texts of the New Testament and all of the Septuagint available to the bodies of believers which made up the ekklesia of Jesus’s Church, not the catholic church. the Catholic Church came much later.


75 posted on 04/09/2016 11:22:56 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: Steelfish

“all got it wrong, and id for for a millennia and more!

Got lots wrong, were often lied to and probably tried their best.


78 posted on 04/09/2016 11:33:17 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: Steelfish
...all got it wrong, and (d)id for for a millennia and more

Some did, some didn't.

The real problem is the misinterpretations which snowballed as Catholicism tried its best a couple of centuries later when they attempted to commandeer Christianity away from Jesus Christ (the Head of the body) and His body of believers.

God is not happy about that. REALLY not happy!

79 posted on 04/09/2016 11:49:20 AM PDT by Syncro (James 1:8- A double minded man is unstabe in all his ways)
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