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To: MHGinTN; Mercat

So in your religion do you get the pre-crucified flesh and blood of Jesus, or is the priest serving the post resurrection Jesus?


The answer to your question is beyond human understanding. John Damascene wrote the following on the subject:

You ask how the bread becomes the Body of Christ, and the wine . . . the Blood of Christ. I shall tell you: the Holy Spirit comes upon them and accomplishes what surpasses every word and thought. . . . Let it be enough for you to understand that it is by the Holy Spirit, just as it was of the Holy Virgin and by the Holy Spirit that the Lord, through and in himself, took flesh.

John Damascene, De fide orth. 4, 13: PG 94, 1145A.


617 posted on 04/15/2016 8:55:09 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: rwa265

You tie yourself to human time. Do you accept the Nicene Creed?

“We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.”


618 posted on 04/15/2016 9:00:00 AM PDT by Mercat (Boredom is a problem on the inside. And happiness, too, is an inside job.)
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To: rwa265
Which quote, typical to catholic apologetics, does not address the question in the post.

Here is the dilemma posed by the question, so you won't flounder around seeking another non sequitur.

If the flesh and blood are of the 'being crucified Jesus, then He has not at that point entered into the Holy of Holies with His blood for the Heavenly remission of the sins of the world. If, on the other hand, the flesh and blood are presumed to be that of the Risen Lord, the act of trying to go back and continue the accomplished a sacrifice is demonic mockery of an act accomplished and finished, as spoken by God (it is finished). The Resurrection proved 'IT' --the perfect sacrifice for all, ONCE made-- was/is/shall always be, finished.

There is no sacred reference point at which the claim of catholiciism can be TRUTH. The Bible can be ignored, however, and 'another gospel' can be touted, a gospel much like the pagan practices of sacrificing food to idols, then eating that food to get the god of the idol into the adherents tot he rite.

Would like another try to show I am mistaken in the reference point for this flesh and catholiciism blood ritual?

620 posted on 04/15/2016 9:29:45 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: rwa265; metmom
By the way, here is another question I have, since I was too scared to ask a priest. I was afraid he would spoil my fun, so I did not ask.
My question is, what is a mortal sin, and what is a venial sin, and who makes the decision as to which is which? The only guage I had, was that I figured the more fun I was having, the more chance I was doing mortal sins. My dad got suspicious, when I stopped getting communion. He said that maybe I should go to confession. As I mentioned, I went to confession, then I felt powerless to stop committing mortal sins again.
After I left the RCC, my family almost had a funeral for me, thinking I had gone into darkness. Later, three of my sisters did the same thing. I told them they needed to be born anew from above to go to Heaven, but whatever church they decide to attend, was ENTIRELY up to them.
623 posted on 04/15/2016 11:21:34 AM PDT by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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