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To: Legatus
God breathed, Holy Spirit inspired Scripture says, "Mary, mother of Jesus".

You can rail all you want about what you claim it means to say that and what someone who isn't playing your games means when they refuse to answer to you, but NOTHING can change the fact of what is written.

John 2:1 On the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there.

John 2:3 When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to him, “They have no wine.”

Acts 1:14 All these with one accord were devoting themselves to prayer, together with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and his brothers.

The phrase *mother of God* is not found anywhere in Scripture.

The phrase "the mother of Jesus Christ Our Lord and God" is not found anywhere in Scripture.

Why do you keep adding to or changing GOD'S word? Is it not good enough for you? Do you think that you can improve on it?

2 Timothy 3:14-17 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

Or is she the mother of the man Jesus?

So Jesus is a man in your book?

Then you are denying the divinity of Jesus by claiming that the title that the Holy Spirit gave Mary ways that Jesus was only a man.

Will you deny Him before man?

I am not denying Christ. He is my Lord and Savior. I have accepted Him as such and am trusting Him fully for my salvation.

YES! See it’s not about Mary, it’s about what you believe about Jesus Christ. Is Mary the mother of Jesus Christ Our Lord and God?

But the Catholic church makes it about Mary.

By removing the name of Jesus from HER identifier, it removes Jesus from the equation. There's no way that calling her *mother of God* would tell ANYONE unfamiliar with Christianity about the nature and character of Jesus because that title is about HER NOT Jesus.

There were several Mary's listed in Scripture and the Holy Spirit saw fit to identify her as *mother of Jesus*. To identify HER, not Jesus.

If you want to know about Jesus, you go to the Word.

If the Catholic church considers going to the Word and relying on it as heresy, then it condemns itself as heretical as well because it claims not only that it depends on the word, but that it WROTE the word. That it is the source of the word.

If depending on it solely or heavily is heresy, the taking credit for it's existence is also heresy.

And if you reject Scripture and dependence on it as heretical, then what's left? The early church fathers? The sinking sand of the opinions of men?

And yet, since they claim to be dependent on the Word as well, then you've just damned them as heretical.

So then what is Catholicism based on?

Consensus? Feelings? Word of mouth aka "sacred tradition"

If the unchanging written word is not good enough, then how is 2,000 years of playing telephone?

489 posted on 04/13/2016 11:43:59 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Did you notice that in that whole rambling post you never actually identified Jesus Christ as God? The word Trinity is not found anywhere in Sacred Scripture either, will you deny that doctrine as well?

Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior, and God. Will you say the same?


493 posted on 04/14/2016 1:02:17 AM PDT by Legatus (I think, therefore you're out of your mind)
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