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To: Genoa
"I thought the Vatican II declarations about ecumenism put that to rest"

That's the whole point of the article. Benedict is suggesting that Vatican II went too far.

The way it was explained to me is that "no salvation outside the Church" meant that even non-Catholics could be saved just by the fact that the Church continued to exist and preach the truth. Somehow these non-Catholics would hear this truth, internally consent to it without joining the church, and would eventually end up in Heaven.

Benedict is suggesting this might not be helpful or correct. The original meaning of the saying "no salvation outside the church" meant you had to be baptized Catholic to be saved. That position was harsh, but it encouraged missionary zeal to save as many souls as possible, and it gave Catholics a good reason to be Catholic.

24 posted on 03/16/2016 11:02:33 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Interesting. I didn’t know an ecumenical council called by proper authority could err.


27 posted on 03/16/2016 11:09:00 AM PDT by Genoa
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

By the way, would you say Orthodox are saved or going to hell?


28 posted on 03/16/2016 11:10:55 AM PDT by Genoa
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Benedict is suggesting that Vatican II went too far.

Is he? I'm not convincned that is what he is actually saying. It sounds to me that he is talking about things "after the Council". I don't see where he actually blames the Council.

48 posted on 03/16/2016 12:51:31 PM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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