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To: CraigEsq
Peter did not disagree with me in the least.

Did you miss this part?

Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

NOT water baptism.

913 posted on 03/22/2016 7:45:31 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Lest we forget, the spiritual things are discerned by the spirit, not the carnal mind. The carnal mind puts the power for forgiveness in the hands of priests and such, whereas The Spirit is the one Who cleanses us by the blood of Christ which was sacrificed for us. Wetting babies cannot in any way enjoin their spirit for they are not yet aware. But those watching the priest do his thing get a carnal kick out of it.


914 posted on 03/22/2016 7:53:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: metmom

Peter did not disagree with me in the least.

Did you miss this part?

Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

NOT water baptism.


Absolutely “water” baptism (a redundant phrase). There is no other baptism: “There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call— 5 one Lord, one faith, ONE BAPTISM, 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.”

Peter is simply making clear that there’s nothing magical about the water. The water doesn’t save you because it washes dirt off of you. Baptism saves you through the death and resurrection of Jesus. If he wasn’t talking about “water” baptism, why would he need to clarify anything about washing dirt off?


915 posted on 03/22/2016 8:45:56 PM PDT by CraigEsq
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To: metmom

Noah and his family were saved out of the water, not in it. The water did not save them. It was God Who saved them, by interposing the vehicle, which by faith in Christ Noah built according to Jehovah’s instruction. Those who did not trust in God died by drowning in the water.


918 posted on 03/22/2016 10:00:37 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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