[terycarl]

Without going to different passages, I can summarize what I believe as follows: God knows who are the sheep and who are the goats even before we are born; He will give His promise to the sheep and keep it; He will not give His Promise to the goats.

Oh goodie, now we have predestination....sheesh

[MHGinTN]

Apparently, you do not have ...

[rwa265]

Oh goodie, now we have predestination....sheesh

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God knew even before we are born. According to Romans 8:28-29, “For those he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, so that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those he predestined he also called; and those he called he also justified; and those he justified he also glorified.