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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

**I also believe the Father and Son are in me. Do you believe that?**

God the Father and the mind that he put in Christ. This is supplied by the Comforter (Holy Ghost). Not two or three separate and distinct persons of God.

You do realize that until Jesus Christ departed, the Holy Ghost outpouring could not happen. He had to go away in order for the Comforter to come (John 16:7-15).

“Howbeit when the he, the Spirit of truth is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall NOT speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.” vs 13.

Sound familiar?....”For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.’ Jn 12:49

The Father is the source of all truth.

**So I understand you, who is Jesus to you? A created being like an angel or human?**

I believe God the Father made soul of the Son before any other thing created. (see Rev. 3:14 below). And of course, the Father later made the human body for that soul to dwell in.

“Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:” Col. 1:15.

At that point, the Father was in him, giving power to create, unless you think that the Father didn’t make anything.

The Father told the Son what he needed to know, when he needed to know it, even after the resurrection, but before ascending to the Father to be glorified, telling Mary Magdalene:

“..I ascend unto my Father, and to your Father, and to my God, and to your God.” Jn 20:17

..And before his ascension to heaven after being glorified:

“It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.” Acts 1:7

..And after his ascension to heaven:

“The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass..”. Rev. 1:1

“..These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;” Rev. 3:14

**Is it ok to worship Jesus or would that be idolatry?**

The Father is in Christ, so of course it’s okay to worship Jesus Christ. Unlike the Ark of the Covenant, where God said he would dwell between to cherubims, and thereby keeping people from worshipping the work of men’s hands. The Son is begotten of God, not man, and the Father dwells in Son.


45 posted on 02/07/2016 4:56:35 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Zuriel

How be it when HE the spirit of truth has come..........

Did you catch that - the Holy Spirit is called “He”, a force or power is not a HE. A person is a He. The Holy Spirit hears, the Holy Spirit speaks. These are attributes of a person.

Next error - “ I believe God the Father made the soul of the Son”

Jesus Christ is God, one of the attributes of God is He isn’t created. John 1 tells us the Word was God.
Secondly John 1:3 tells us all things were made thru Jesus and without him nothing was made that was made. So Jesus could not have been made because it tells us nothing was made without Jesus, which would include Jesus.

Isaiah 44:6 declares the Lord says I am the first and the last.
This is God speaking.
Well look at what Jesus says about Himself in Revelation 1:17:
Fear not, I am the first and the last.
This is God speaking.

Notice Jesus doesn’t say I am the first and the last because the Father is in me. No, he flat out declares his deity.

Curious, are you Oneness Pentecostal by any chance?


48 posted on 02/07/2016 8:50:41 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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