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Can the Church Depose an Heretical Pope?
The Remnant Newspaper ^ | November 18, 2014 | Robert J. Siscoe

Posted on 01/31/2016 4:18:23 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: BlatherNaut; ealgeone
The Deposit of Faith.

And is comprised of exactly what? Specifically.

121 posted on 02/01/2016 3:59:57 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ealgeone
The Bible PLUS.....

Plus???

I think not!

Jude 1:3 English Revised Version
Beloved, while I was giving all diligence to write unto you of our common salvation, I was constrained to write unto you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered unto the saints.

122 posted on 02/01/2016 4:01:35 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius

So the pope is elected by popular opinion?

Not much like Peter when he cast lots.

At least he prayed about it and trusted God to lead them.

So you’re comfortable with following a human leader elected by the vote of men who are NOT led by the Holy spirit in their decisions?

And you trust your eternal destiny to them?


123 posted on 02/01/2016 4:02:54 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Claud
But Christ is still the true, heavenly head of the Church regardless of what his earthly Vicar is up to.

A lot of Catholics tend to think otherwise...


 
 
 
Bernadine: …all gifts, all virtues, and all graces are dispensed by the hands of Mary to whomsoever, when, and as she pleases. O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of all graces, and since the grace of salvation can ONLY come through thy hands, OUR SALVATION DEPENDS ON THEE.

Bonaventure: …the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION . Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.

Ephem: …devotion to the divine Mother…is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.

Blosius: To the, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.

Ambrose: …constantly pray ‘Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.

Fulgetius: …by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven.

Athanasius: …And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.

Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.

Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.

Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.

Antoninus: …souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED.

124 posted on 02/01/2016 4:03:09 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Why is it an ignorant question to ask of the College of Cardinals is led by the Holy Spirit in their selection of the pope?

It’s simple. A yes or no question, which, BTW, I note that you also failed to answer.


125 posted on 02/01/2016 4:04:36 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
I differentiated the two. I'll ask the question again....what is in "sacred tradition" that is not in the Word that is essential for having eternal life?

The board awaits your answer....

126 posted on 02/01/2016 4:04:46 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Scripture.

It works better.


127 posted on 02/01/2016 4:05:27 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Syncro

GMTA


128 posted on 02/01/2016 4:06:20 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Petrosius

The roman catholic church may have recognized them but they were not recognized as Scripture by the early church nor the Jews nor attested to by Scripture itself in Luke 11:51.


129 posted on 02/01/2016 4:31:43 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd; metmom; Elsie
When he cooked up his absurd, un-Biblical, self-made doctrines and either pinned them to a Church door (and written in Latin(!) no less, if it even happened at all)....

Good grief...

A catholic denies what history has recorded.

In tomorrow's threads we'll be discussing the landing on the moon conspiracy and the two shooter conspiracy.

130 posted on 02/01/2016 4:38:19 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: softengine
isn't everything the Catholic religion does heresy?

When we say that Jesus Christ is true God and true man, who died on Calvary for the sins of men, that's heresy?

131 posted on 02/01/2016 5:10:49 AM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: metmom
Martin Luther certainly believed that. And no evidence suggested that he intended to start his own church.

Were he alive today, he would not recognized what the ELCA has become, though he'd probably recognize the Missouri Synod.

132 posted on 02/01/2016 5:16:57 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Elsie
A lot of Catholics tend to think otherwise...

No they don't think otherwise. You just seem to have a hard time understanding the theology of mediation.

Say you fall overboard and the captain sends someone out to save you. Would you refuse their hand, because it was not the captain's hand? Would you push them away, because the captain didn't jump in?

133 posted on 02/01/2016 5:25:28 AM PST by Claud
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To: Campion
When we say that Jesus Christ is true God and true man, who died on Calvary for the sins of men, that's heresy?

No, but when you add that you can only come to Christ through Mary, that her intervention is necessary for salvation, then you've moved into heresy.

The foundation of all our confidence is found in the Blessed Virgin Mary. God has committed to her the treasury of all good things, in order that everyone may know that through her are obtained every hope, every grace, and all salvation. For this is His will: that we obtain everything through Mary.

UBI PRIMUM ON THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION ENCYCLICAL OF POPE PIUS IX FEBRUARY 2, 1849

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius09/p9ubipr2.htm

Truth mixed with a little false teaching is the heresy.

134 posted on 02/01/2016 6:02:29 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: metmom
And you trust your eternal destiny to them?

I trust my eternal destiny to Jesus Christ who established the Church, investing it with his authority and protecting it by the Holy Spirit. This rather than trusting in the novel theories invented by self-proclaimed reformers 1500 years later.

135 posted on 02/01/2016 6:35:17 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: ealgeone
The roman catholic church may have recognized them but they were not recognized as Scripture by the early church nor the Jews nor attested to by Scripture itself in Luke 11:51.

The early church was the Catholic Church. There is no authoritative list of the books of the Bible accepted by the early Christians other than that proclaimed by the Catholic Church. The Protestant idea that the early Christian accepted a Bible without the Deuterocanonical books is pure fantasy.

136 posted on 02/01/2016 6:39:47 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Elsie
Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."

And the one God has sent established the Church and gave us the sacraments. You cannot have one without the other.

137 posted on 02/01/2016 6:44:03 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

Perhaps you need to read the passage from Luke.


138 posted on 02/01/2016 6:44:59 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
I differentiated the two. I'll ask the question again....what is in "sacred tradition" that is not in the Word that is essential for having eternal life?

How about we start with the list of canon of the Bible. The canon of the Bible is not self authenticating.

139 posted on 02/01/2016 6:46:17 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius; metmom

How do you square your comment with what I posted in post 134?


140 posted on 02/01/2016 6:47:26 AM PST by ealgeone
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