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To: unlearner

You have a confused understanding of the Church. Christ taught that if you had ought against your brother, you should ultimately take it to the Church. If you are Protestant, what Church would that be? How would that work when everyone does what seems right in their own eyes? Why would the Apostle John be under the impression that local Churches had to recognize his authority, and could not just do whatever the hell they wanted to, if there is no visible, united, authoritative Church?


61 posted on 01/02/2016 11:24:40 PM PST by crumudgeonous
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To: crumudgeonous

“You have a confused understanding of the Church.”

As I have said many times before, the church is made up of people who have believed in Christ and, as a result, God has supernaturally, through the work of the Holy Spirit, transformed each one to be member of the body of Christ, the church. Simply put, the church is believers. It is nothing more than people who have trusted in Christ, and nothing less. It is not hymnals, pews, steeples, stained glass windows, organs, catechisms, artifacts, relics, altars, buildings, or even Bibles. It is people.

Some of these people are alive on earth, imperfect and still in our mortal bodies. Some are in Heaven, perfected but waiting to be clothed with immortality.

The word “church” essentially means congregation, i.e. a gathering of people. What do congregations do? They congregate. A local church is a group of believers who gather together.

“Why would the Apostle John be under the impression that local Churches had to recognize his authority?”

Because he is an apostle. His words are still authoritative. Believers (i.e. the church) reads them daily for instruction and encouragement.

I have given you my definition of the church. Now tell me yours.


62 posted on 01/03/2016 8:48:19 AM PST by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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