The whole Trinity?
Or don't you believe in the Trinity and therefore God became human, as in modalism?
So you are agreeing then, that GOD died when Jesus died? Yes or no?
Both the ‘Did God die?’ question and the ‘mother of God’ debate turn on definitions which the opposing sides do not seem to agree on. What is death? What is a mother?
Mary is the mother of God. “Mother” is an earthly, human term. It does not mean creator. Your mother did not create you; she participated in the creation of your earthly body. Your soul was created by God, before you were ‘knitted’ in the womb. Mary participated in the creation of Jesus’ and thus God’s, human body. That is what being the ‘mother of God’ means. The idea that Mary created God is valid only to those who believe mothers create their children. Since I don’t think anyone really believes that, this entire argument is pointless. There really is no disagreement, there are only people trying to assign to Catholics beliefs that they don’t hold.
As far as God dying goes, death is also an earthly construct. It is the separation of the soul from the human, earthly body. Jesus did die in the manner of humans, because He was fully human. His being was separated from His earthly form, just as our soul will be separated from our body when we die. Our souls never die (unless going to hell is considered death), and the being of God will never die. The only way Jesus’ death is a problem is if God is limited to the earthly plane, which I think we all agree He is not. Jesus suffered death. His being left His human body and then returned, precisely because God, in any of His persons, is not constrained to earth or human limitations.
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When this happened, did not the Deity Himself become the Incarnation of Deity?
The whole Trinity?
Or don’t you believe in the Trinity and therefore God became human, as in modalism?
So you are agreeing then, that GOD died when Jesus died? Yes or no?
Before laying out what I believe or what I agree with, let us recall the words of St. Paul in his first letter to the Corinthians, Chapter 13, verse 9; “for we know in part.” Oh, if only we could have walked with Christ on the road to Emmaus, where, beginning with Moses and all the prophets, Jesus interpreted to Cleopas and his companion what referred to him in all the scriptures. But we weren’t there, so our beliefs can only be based on our limited understanding of the mighty works of God.
I do believe in the Trinity; that God is three consubstantial persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; that they are three distinct persons, yet are one substance, essence, or nature; that each is God, whole and entire.
I also believe that God became human; that Jesus was the Word that was in the beginning, that was with God, and that was God; that the Word became flesh when the Holy Ghost came upon Mary, and the power of the Highest overshadowed her, and that child which was conceived in her was of the Holy Ghost.
Modalism appears to be a different concept, where Jesus is not God whole and entire, but just one mode of God. I can see how this belief would be the basis for saying Mary is the mother of Jesus but not the mother of God. That Jesus is not the Godhead.
Is this what you believe?