[ealgeone]

Born "from Above" Vs. "Again. The Greek word Anothon occurs exactly 12 times in 12 verses in the New Testament. The five words we are concerned with are Anothon which the Catholics contend means "From above" and the Fundies contend means again.

Wonder not, that I said to thee, you must be born again.

Uh-ho....guess which translation this is from??

DOUAY-RHEIMS

It notes "born again" in John 3:3, 3:4; 3:7

Also, anothen occurs 13 times in 13 verses.

http://biblehub.com/greek/509.htm Well, as always, a little context is helpful in these situations.

From John 3:1-7 NASB

1Now there was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews;

2this man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”

3Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

4Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born, can he?”

5Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6“That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7“Do not be amazed that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’

[metmom]

LOL!!!!

GMTA

[metmom]

There's one more use of the phrase translated *born again* in the Douay-Rheims Bible.....

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again not of corruptible seed, but incorruptible, by the word of God who liveth and remaineth for ever.

[Iscool]

Wonder not, that I said to thee, you must be born again.

Uh-ho....guess which translation this is from??

DOUAY-RHEIMS

Well, verga does have one of them on-line certificates that shows he completed a course in the Greek language (I guess)...What does Jerome have???

I have trouble following their argument...They contend that the greek word means born (from) above, not born again (even tho their Catholic bible as well as all major bibles say again)......They must have come up with some secret Greek Lexicon that has the word 'from' inserted in there...

I don't know any Greek so I will assume they may be right...So I was born from above when I became a Christian...Now I was already born once at the hospital...So does this mean I gave up that first birth or was I 'born again' (but the second time born from above)???