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To: Bayard; HossB86

But you logic fails.

If Mary, the mother of Jesus, is indeed the mother of God, then when Jesus dies in the cross, God died on the cross.

The double standard Catholics continually use to support their theology would be funny if it weren’t so sad.


229 posted on 01/02/2016 4:52:04 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; Bayard; HossB86
If Mary, the mother of Jesus, is indeed the mother of God, then when Jesus dies in the cross, God died on the cross.

Matthew 27:51 And behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth shook and the rocks were split.

Whop tore the veil and why?

230 posted on 01/02/2016 4:56:52 PM PST by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons.)
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To: metmom
But you logic fails. If Mary, the mother of Jesus, is indeed the mother of God, then when Jesus dies in the cross, God died on the cross.

Ah, not failing actually. Your claim is that Jesus two natures implies that His divine nature dies and reason it has to endure is because it is divine. But Jesus experienced death in his humanity, and thus because He is one person this is communicable in value in the person of Jesus.

If only a man died on the cross. A man has only the value of one man however good.

What happened is the reality that two natures are communicated. Since He is truly one person, what he experiences by his humanity is experienced in his person hood. If this communion does not exist, than God the second person does not assume the humanity of Christ. If God the second person of the trinity does not, neither is his death on the cross efficacious.

The reality is that there is a communication of the two natures to the one person. What was called a "hypostasis" by the Council of Calcadon in 451. It appears also in Heb 1:3.

It is because of the God-man value of the person of Christ that the cross is efficacious. If only a man died on the cross. A man has only the value of one man however good. Only because a communicable divinity and humanity existed in the one person of Jesus does the sacrifice have its value.

Divine nature does not die. However, the Divine nature is also said to be one nature of Jesus by the incarnation.

Consequently, this is the what the incarnation means. Jesus who is God assumed his Human nature by his incarnation and became Jesus both God and Man. His humanity is inseparable from his person because he has assumed it. His divinity is inseparable from his humanity because they are both existing in one person who has both natures.

But because the incarnation means that Mary is the Mother of Jesus the incarnated person, she is also the mother of God. Because the incarnated person is also God. This means it is precisely by the incarnation that Mary really is the Mother of God.

355 posted on 01/03/2016 8:05:29 PM PST by Bayard
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To: metmom

But God DID die on the cross! That’s precisely why it MATTERS that Jesus died on the cross!


414 posted on 01/04/2016 3:20:50 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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