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To: ealgeone

Well, definition is important in communication, as seen from this thread where Catholics are accused of equating ‘mother’ with ‘creator’ which we do not, causing an interminable argument on a subject where there is actually no disagreement.

Mediator means ‘go-between’, ‘intercessor’. Jesus’ dying for us was mediation, but praying for someone is also a form of mediation. If you believe that we should pray for others, then you believe that there can be mediators between you and God. Not rising to the level of Jesus’ mediation, but still mediation.

Jesus is the only mediator who interceded with His death and resurrection to allow our salvation. There will never be another mediation of this nature. Nobody claims Mary did this, but she does mediate by praying for us, just as we mediate when we pray for each other. She also helped with the Great Mediation, because she carried and nurtured the Body that would be given up for us.

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1,112 posted on 01/06/2016 6:41:56 PM PST by omegatoo (You know you'll get your money's worth...become a monthly donor!)
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To: omegatoo
Mediator means ‘go-between’, ‘intercessor’. Jesus’ dying for us was mediation, but praying for someone is also a form of mediation. If you believe that we should pray for others, then you believe that there can be mediators between you and God. Not rising to the level of Jesus’ mediation, but still mediation.

Jesus is the only mediator who interceded with His death and resurrection to allow our salvation. There will never be another mediation of this nature. Nobody claims Mary did this, but she does mediate by praying for us, just as we mediate when we pray for each other. She also helped with the Great Mediation, because she carried and nurtured the Body that would be given up for us.

The Greek for mediator as used in 1 Timothy 2:5 is mesites. It means an arbirtrator guaranteeing the performance of all the terms stipulated in a covenant. HELPS Word-studies

There is only one person who fits this description in 1 Timothy 2:5: Jesus.

The word mesites is used six times in the NT in various forms. Gal 3:19, 20; i Tim 2:5; Heb 8:6, 9:15, 12:24. All point to either God or Jesus as the mediator.

The catholic again has to resort to redefining words apart from the Biblical meaning in a vain attempt to justify the false teachings regarding Mary being Helper, Mediatrix, Co-Redemtrix and Advocate.

Even catholics recognize they are on very thin ice using these titles.

In August 1996, a Mariological Congress was held in Czestochowa, Poland, where a commission was established in response to a request of the Holy See. The congress sought the opinion of scholars present there regarding the possibility of proposing a fifth Marian dogma on Mary as Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate. The commission unanimously declared that it was not opportune, voting 23-0 against the proposed dogma.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-Redemptrix#Arguments_in_opposition

Notice they did not reject the motion on Biblical grounds....they rejected the motion on political grounds.

There is no hint in the NT of any of these titles being remotely considered to be involving Mary.

Even in CCC 969 there are no references to the Word....only LG 62.

LG 62 does attempt to justify these titles with three passages but the appeal fails as these are totally out of context.

It is why Christians reject these false titles.

1,122 posted on 01/06/2016 7:38:23 PM PST by ealgeone
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