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To: DungeonMaster
I've heard that several times from Catholic friends. I think you been manipulated a bit. We all know "Judge not lest you be judged". Every heathen knows that verse and they love to beat Christians over the head with it. But the rest of the bible gives that a better context. A good one is "If anyone does not love the Lord Jesus Christ let him be accursed". It's not you who condemns, you are just giving testimony of what the bible says.

I usually allow others to have their own faith/beliefs. Like I said, it's not my call. No one has ever tried to convert me to anything else.
Also, I wouldn't DREAM of calling a non-Christian "accursed." THAT is condemnation, IMHO.
As you know, Catholics also believe in "Apostolic Tradition." I doubt that you do but that's all right with me. Why would I beat you over the head over it? Not my call to monitor your beliefs.
I think that we all usually try to do our very best in life, FReepers included of course. And, if they are nice to me, that's great. If they are snarky, I can push my "IGNORE" button. There isn't much use to do anything else. Why have a battle of words over something like that? God will be my judge and I trust Him.

Giving testimony to the Good News is right and good. I wonder if you think it's all right for you to cite condemnation to others for their non-Christian beliefs. Would you not be "casting the first stone"? I'm not trying to be provocative. It's just a question.

Steve Ray used to be an Evangelical Baptist minister and he thought that all of us Catholics were going straight to hell. He intended to convert us.
He knew that one had to be cognizant of those Catholic (heretical) beliefs before any evangelizing could occur. So, he and his wife, Janet, spent a full year reading about the Catholic Church. One night they found themselves on the living room floor, weeping, saying: "Oh no! We're CATHOLICS!"
He wrote a book called CROSSING THE TIBER and it says how it all came about for them.
NOW, he and his lovely wife do tours to the Holy Land [In the Footsteps of God] and there is one coming up called: IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF ST. PAUL.
A Protestant friend of mine and I took that first tour and it was MARVELOUS. Steve could quote Scripture backwards, forwards and upside down. He was a force majeure.

Also, one could SEE how the Israelis worked together: Jews, Catholics and Muslims. Israel, we were told, simply didn't have the bodies to do all the work needed to be done in Israel. Jews, we were told by Jews, would do road work but they wouldn't clean toilets or wash dishes. SOMEONE had to do those jobs. Muslim Palestinians did that work. We were told also that the Christians in Israel were Catholics.
One of our tour guides was a Catholic Palestinian Arab. That knocked around MY head for a while. But, he had made social friends-working allies with Jews and Muslims alike and other Catholic Arabs (naturally). It was all VERY strange for me.

The last place on the tour was a hamburger joint-diner, a la ELVIS, complete with pink Cadillac on the roof. Their burgers, fries and CHOCOLATE MALTS were deeelicious
Go figure.

It was an EYE-OPENING tour.

90 posted on 12/02/2015 9:01:20 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain
Giving testimony to the Good News is right and good. I wonder if you think it's all right for you to cite condemnation to others for their non-Christian beliefs. Would you not be "casting the first stone"? I'm not trying to be provocative. It's just a question.

Isn't there anything in the bible that answers this question for you? Does it seem un Christian to tell two gay guys who ask you to come to their wedding that the bible tells you that you can't go? Or how about if a guy in your church is sleeping with his father's wife, should someone say something about his non-Christian beliefs that seem to make that ok in his mind?

95 posted on 12/02/2015 9:30:58 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Democrats have covens, not conventions.)
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