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To: Bob434

I know. I work at a contact lens factory, and the process to build something like this is incredible, akin to walking up water on a waterfall.

If evolution had real applications (and I am not talking genetics manipulations and selections we enjoy doing with algorithms), the we would have factories being built by naturally condensing materials. I have not seen that happen yet.

Natural selection is a different issue because it already uses the factory of life existing. We are talking about manufacturing manufacture manufacturing life.


62 posted on 11/28/2015 9:12:43 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: lavaroise

Exactly, micro evolution (Adaption- which uses the info already present) is a much different process than macro-evolution- (The addition of new non species specific information which is absolutely necessary in order to move one species to another kind of species) something that is biologically chemically, naturally, and physically impossible-

Macroevolution is just like the monkey shakespear scenario- the info is all there, but randomly banging the keys for trillions of years will not produce order out of the chaos except for a few short words which are meaningless to the overall picture.

One additional thought- I my last post, I showed how mitochondrial entropy shows that life is very young, and this compliments a previous post I did that showed that in order for macroevolution to happen (provided we ignore all the biological, mathematical, physical chemical etc impossibilities), over billions of years, the mutation rate would be so severe, a species could not survive it because science has shown time and again, natural selection is incapable of weeding out deleterious mutations (contrary to the false claim of those who support macroevolution- the scientific evidence simply doesn’t support their claim- Genomes retain nearly ALL of the deleterious mutations and pass them on to successive generations)

Tracin g back genetic errors, the evidence shows life to be very young- right in lien with what the bible states infact- and several such studies were done and they were done not by creationists, but by secular scientists, so the accusation of ‘bias’ can’t be made by those who support macroevoltuion In these cases


64 posted on 11/28/2015 9:26:51 AM PST by Bob434
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To: lavaroise

[[If evolution had real applications (and I am not talking genetics manipulations and selections we enjoy doing with algorithms), the we would have factories being built by naturally condensing materials. I have not seen that happen yet.]]

You bring up an excellent point- Even IF nature had all the necessary building blocks necessary for lie it would still need a factory to put it all together because building life from blocks requires precise engineering to build the structures necessary to ensure that nothing goes awry in the incredibly complex process of life building- in otherwords, you would need an intelligent designer to design a processing plant with all the necessary equipment needed to ensure that the incredibly complex assembly process resulted In the correct form of lie without any mistakes which would cause the assembly/life process to fail

[[”… other biochemical building blocks such as nucleotides and lipids, require for their synthesis a ‘real factory.’ … The synthesis of these substances involves a series of reactions, each reaction following the previous one in utmost accuracy.” {Iris Fry, The Emergence of Life on Earth, 2000, p. 126, 176-177.}]]

http://www.creationism.org/heinze/Life.htm

In otehrwords- if something along the way isn’t exactly precise, the experiment fails- hence the need for absolute precision- intelligently designed of course


67 posted on 11/28/2015 10:40:06 AM PST by Bob434
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