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To: redleghunter

Good points. I’ve settled on Romans 1 as my anaswer to the perennial “But what about the________ people? Do you really think God would send them to Hell for not knowing?”

Romans 1 says men knew and KNOW but suppress the truth. If a tribal man does not suppress the truth, I’m convinced God will reveal Christ to Him. The Spirit is not limited by geography or language. Some Muslims report being given a vision or dream of Jesus that led them to Him. Once in faith, the miraculous likely recedes because “the righteous shall live by faith”. The point is God can save anyone, ANYWHERE, if they are open to His Son.


9 posted on 11/24/2015 8:12:37 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: avenir

Indeed...most people do not get in a hateful lather over a fairy tale. Their response is usually “it’s the idea we hate.” Back to square one with them...”They are just ideas so what are you so worked up about.”

Then the conversation goes into “well if there is a God why is there suffering.” So you have to point out that if God is responsible for the bad why not give credit for the good? They never answer that and then call God a ‘bully.’

Then you have them. It’s about His ‘Rules’ they don’t like. So about this time you know in the conversation the “God does not exist” meme fails because you just found out they don’t like Him.

No one goes through all the trouble and emotion atheists do to combat an idea they think is a fairy tale. So yes, this confirms what the Apostle Paul tells us in Romans 1.


12 posted on 11/24/2015 8:50:58 AM PST by redleghunter (Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation)
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To: avenir; redleghunter
This made me think of the best-documented instance of bi-location in history: a Spanish cloistered nun by the name of Mother Mary of Agreda ("Maria de Jesus de Agreda"), without ever leaving Spain, traveled miraculously to New Mexico repeatedly in the early 1600's, and/or appeared as a vision and told the local Indians about the Lord Jesus Christ. She instructed them to find a Catholic priest and be baptized and they would be pleasing to the True God.

Actually investigated and documented at both ends (New Mexico and Spain.) The Indians had seen her numerous times, but she never left her cloister.

16 posted on 11/24/2015 10:02:12 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Save us from the fires of hell; lead all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of Thy mercy)
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To: avenir

“Once in faith, the miraculous likely recedes”

I think you’re on to something there. As Pope St. Gregory wrote, “There are in truth three states of the converted—the beginning, the middle, and the perfection. In the beginning, they experience the charms of sweetness; in the middle, the contests of temptation; and in the end, the fullness of perfection.”


23 posted on 11/24/2015 11:33:24 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: avenir

Absolutely agree!


26 posted on 11/24/2015 12:34:30 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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