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To: Tzfat

I think what people who take this literally have a hard time with his NOT that God would act on His own to destroy a city and its inhabitants. He obviously has the authority to take ANY life, since He is the giver of it.

It is that God, who commanded people not to kill, would use His own chosen people to actually commit the mass killing.

Killing is a very ugly thing ( an understatement ) to do and affects not only the one who is killed, but the killer’s own soul as well. One can never be the same when one kills another human being ( much less many human beings ).

THAT is what disturbs people when they read about it.


49 posted on 11/21/2015 5:28:12 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
THAT is what disturbs people when they read about it.

What disturbs them is what they see as inconsistency. They are trying to answer strawman arguments against the Bible, by watering it down themselves.

Many have been taught to believe the "Old Testament" is the old way, and the "New Testament" is the new way. A big problem with that thinking is that it applies a "theological" mindset to what they read. In other words, they start making exceptions and excuses. The heretic Marcion was not the first, but perhaps the most famous to come up with this kind of nonsense. He hated Jews, so he came up with a theology that treated the "Old Testament" as a metaphor, and eventually concluded that the god of that portion was different than the god of the "New Testament."

Read Revelation 19-20 and tell me that the figurative language used conveys anything other than a literal obliteration of evil men by the Messiah Himself.

It is clear and unmistakable: Israel was commanded by the righteous King of the Universe to completely and utterly kill men, women, and children of those kingdoms living in Canaan. Not just once, but multiple times. To apply some sort of misguided theological answer to that question is an invitation to moral relativism. You've heard it: "Homosexuality was forbidden only because in the culture of that day a high value was placed on having children - so it isn't wrong today because we don't have that issue."

Bottom line: never mistake figures of speech (as you mentioned), or types, as an invitation to read Scripture as figurative. The Bible is a clear, literal expression of the Almighty's will. Period.
50 posted on 11/21/2015 6:21:59 AM PST by Tzfat
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Many peoples of the prejudeo christian world in europe asia the pacific islands and the americas at one time practiced human sacrifice of one type or another. The ones that did it on an industrial scale in the americas and the middle east also had homosexuality in the priesthood.

in the pre judeo christian world when someone wanted to f-uck the state —they went to the temple prostitute—who could be male or female.

You’ll want to read a book called the conquest of new spain by bernal diaz. he was cortez’s lietenant. he chronicles the human sacrifice and homosexuality that cortez and his men encountered in central America and the Caribbean.

Cortes’s reaction was much the same as that of Moses and Joshua.

It is generally thought in christian circles that the sudden power of homosexuals in recent decades is due to roe v wade. that abortion is the human sacrifice sacrament that sustains the power of homosexuals in the culture since homosexuality and abortion operate in the same liberal moral universe—and not till after roe v wade did the homosexuals suddenly rise in power.

reverse roe v wade and the power of the homosexuals will go into decline.

in the meantime meantime its generally thought among american evangelicals that America has entered into a period generally akin to the evil period of the old testatment. that would be the book of judges.

that would be the one with the sing song. every man did what was right in his own eyes. they all did evil in the sight of the Lord.

the reason for democrat advocacy of all manner of abomination is to make people unable to control themselves. they lose the power of self government and so power and money shifts to the government where the government party—generally but not always the democrats— makes their living.


51 posted on 11/21/2015 6:45:55 AM PST by ckilmer (q)
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