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To: DungeonMaster; af_vet_1981
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That's why we don't get Mary, because all we have is a bible. In it we find nothing about immaculate conception, ever virgin, mother of god, mother of the church, queen of heaven, distributrix of all grace, co-mediator, co-redeemer, omnipresent hearer of prayers, unbroken hymen, bodily assumed into heaven. Why with only a bible we are completely in the dark and lost about all of the wonders of Mary aren't we?

But what we do get is the promise that there is nothing outside of the bible that can contribute to our salvation...Everything we need to get saved in contained within the scriptures...

We don't need Mary...We don't need a pope...We don't need the Eucharist...We don't need to send our prayers to anyone other than God...We don't need priests...We don't need confession to a Catholic priest...We don't need statues...We don't need relics and we don't even need candles...And a host of other things they put themselves in bondage to that are not listed in the bible...

315 posted on 11/10/2015 8:33:02 AM PST by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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To: Iscool

That was very well said. Thanks!


318 posted on 11/10/2015 8:50:26 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: Iscool; af_vet_1981
That's why we don't get Mary, because all we have is a bible. In it we find nothing about immaculate conception, ever virgin, mother of god, mother of the church, queen of heaven, distributrix of all grace, co-mediator, co-redeemer, omnipresent hearer of prayers, unbroken hymen, bodily assumed into heaven. Why with only a bible we are completely in the dark and lost about all of the wonders of Mary aren't we?

But what we do get is the promise that there is nothing outside of the bible that can contribute to our salvation...Everything we need to get saved in contained within the scriptures...

We don't need Mary...We don't need a pope...We don't need the Eucharist...We don't need to send our prayers to anyone other than God...We don't need priests...We don't need confession to a Catholic priest...We don't need statues...We don't need relics and we don't even need candles...And a host of other things they put themselves in bondage to that are not listed in the bible...

Does the bible really say that adding the things we listed above is bad? Does the bible not give license for a "pope" to add or change things all he wants? When the Word of God speaks of itself it must not say it very clearly or something.

OK it is clear for me but it is not clear for a billion Catholics for whom the bible is a handbook of religious hints not an exhaustive, living and active work and Word of God.

321 posted on 11/10/2015 8:57:24 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Democrats have covens, not conventions.)
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