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To: Mr Rogers; NYer; Salvation; boatbums; Springfield Reformer
When imperfections burn off, the remainder has been purified.

Whether the passage speaks of people collectively or individually, the fact remains that these people are saved (verse 15) after that purification. No one by the way, is disputing that Purgatory is a kind of church, namely Church Suffering. It is, however, notable how pointedly St. Paul repeat words like "every one", "every man", "his own reward", "his own labor", "any man's work", -- I am counting 9 such qualifiers in the passage. So your theory how it only refers to the collective and, miraculously, not to any particular soul is not only irrelevant but textually wrong.

Read the Bible every once in a while and you will be, like me, Catholic.

163 posted on 11/03/2015 8:30:36 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex; NYer; Salvation; boatbums; Springfield Reformer

“Whether the passage speaks of people collectively or individually...”

There is no doubt. It is not open to interpretation, since Paul is explicit. It is not talking about an individual’s sin:

“After all, who is Apollos? And who is Paul? We are simply God s servants, by whom you were led to believe. Each one of us does the work which the Lord gave him to do: I planted the seed, Apollos watered the plant, but it was God who made the plant grow...There is no difference between the one who plants and the one who waters; God will reward each one according to the work each has done. For we are partners working together for God, and you are God’s field. You are also God s building. Using the gift that God gave me, I did the work of an expert builder and laid the foundation, and someone else is building on it. But each of you must be careful how you build.”

That is the problem of Catholicism: It requires a Catholic to twist the plain meaning to fit an invented doctrine. There is NOTHING in this passage about an individual’s sin being only partially forgiven - which is also directly contrary to scripture:

“This is the covenant that I will make with them
After those days, says the Lord:
I will put My laws upon their heart,
And on their mind I will write them,”

He then says,

17 “And their sins and their lawless deeds
I will remember no more.”
- Hebrews 10

1 Corinthians 3 discusses Paula and others laboring to bring the Corinthian church to maturity, comparing the church to a field (first) and then to a building. And those who labor well will be rewarded, and those who labor poorly will not - although both will be saved.

But those who place tradition over scripture will also be dealt with:

“But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. 2 Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; 3 and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.” - 2 Peter 2


166 posted on 11/03/2015 9:21:09 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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