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To: Colofornian

Do Mormons still consider Mountain Meadows to be haunted as they did after the murder of the Fancher wagon train there?


5 posted on 10/27/2015 7:04:07 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Do Mormons still consider Mountain Meadows to be haunted as they did after the murder of the Fancher wagon train there?

Very good question.

Mountain Meadows Massacre Anecdote "A":

Five years ago, FREEPER poster Livius told an account in a Sept. 10, 2010 post:
"I was driving across the country once many years ago and we arrived at a park with a campground in the late evening and decided to stop there for the night. We set up camp and went to bed almost immediately, because the place was somehow unpleasant. My kids didn’t sleep at all and I had to keep getting up and going to them, and in fact none of us could sleep. I woke up in a real panic in the middle of the night, something that never happens to me because I love going camping and I am not nervous at all. As soon as the faintest dawn broke, we got up and packed up and drove out of the camp. At the gate, we stopped and read the sign: Mountain Meadows. There was a brief description of what had happened on the site, but it wasn’t until later that I read the full story. However, that did explain our horrible night (and I’m not even a very “sensitive” person). It must have been awful."
Source: Sept. 10, 2010 post by Freeper Livius [Post #15]

In that same thread (post #22), Livius added: "It [Mountain Meadows Massacre location] is a very creepy site, and I knew nothing about it when I arrived, so it wasn't creepy because I somehow expected it to be so. I was in one other place once that had the same effect on me, and it did indeed turn out that someone had been murdered there by someone else who lived in the house and had never been brought to justice. So yes, I think the blood does cry out from the ground."

Mountain Meadows Anecdote "B":

A ghosttraveler.com (traveller two "l"s??) used to be up as a Web site...now defunct...

A few years back, it had an entry that read as follows:

...North of St George - Mountain Meadows Massacre Memorial...a bizarre and twisted tale of a group of Christian pioneers from Arkansas who...were slaughtered by a group of Mormons painted to look like Paiute Indians. Investigators said...there were actual Paiute Indians participating...the tribe officially dismisses this. Brigham Young, some sources say, gave the order to carry this atrocity out, in which 120 men women and children were brutally slaughtered and left to the desert critters...Several under the age of 7 or 8 were allowed to live, because most likely it was felt they wouldn't be able to give an account of the murders (they were recovered from several Mormon homes a few years later)...it was reportedly a bloodbath scene of Biblical proportions. A monument was erected by Army Brevet Major James H. Carleton, on which he had inscribed "Vengeance is mine: I will repay, saith the Lord". It lasted just long enough for Brigham Young to have it torn down again. This cycle has gone on for over a century, with monument after monument being desecrated...Anyway, on to the ghosts...
...visitors report the mumblings of phantom voices from the nearby creek.

Website re: location of above-mentioned site: Mountain Meadows Association

9 posted on 10/27/2015 9:06:04 AM PDT by Colofornian
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