I Look at My Students and See Our Future Ex-Catholics

Aletelia ^ | October 23, 2015 | MARY DETURRIS POUST

[ealgeone]

Well, that’s what happens when you believe Genesis is symbolic. If you can’t get the beginning right you’re on shaky ground going forward.

[verga]

Please stop insulting my intelligence.

[ealgeone]

A question is an insult to your intelligence??

Wow.

Then please show specifically in the NT where it says the Catholic Church, and by that you mean the Roman Cathokic Church, is what you claim in your post.

[verga]

Then please show specifically in the NT where it says the Catholic Church, and by that you mean the Roman Cathokic Church, is what you claim in your post.

Sure right after you show me incontrovertible proof of ANY Christian Church existing before the Catholic Church, right after you show me incontrovertible proof of any Christian Church that was involved with the assembly of the Bible, the establishment of the Apostles' creed, the Nicean Constantinople Creed, the defining of the incarnation, etc.....

[ealgeone]

Hah....knew it. You make an assertion you cannot back up.

However, there was a Christian church that existed before the Roman Catholic Church.

25And he left for Tarsus to look for Saul; 26and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. And for an entire year they met with the church and taught considerable numbers; and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch. Acts 11:26 NASB

[ealgeone]

I can also point to the Day of Pentecost in Acts 2 when the church was born through the outpouring of the Holy Spirit.

[ealgeone]

We also see the early church in Paul’s letters as well. But no Roman Cathokic Church mentioned.

[verga]

As usual you are wrong. Learn some real history.

[choirboy]

THIS. IS. MY. BODY. Stop avoiding it. Deal with it.

[Salvation]

Doesn't everyone know this?

How Old Is Your Church?

[kearnyirish2]

In my experience I’ve seen them asserting that more frequently, especially when they suspect a lot of lapsed Catholics are present (First Holy Communions, Confirmations, and naturally Easter Sunday and Christmas). Parishes run primarily on voluntary donations; they have little choice in the matter but to push them.

[utahagen]

I'm glad to hear that “Go to church every Sunday” is preached at your church. I'd like see a bigger push for every Catholic to formally join a parish and to donate money — via, say, ParishPay — automatically every month. It drives me nuts how nearly everyone in this country — even poor people — spends more than $100 a month on cable TV, yet balks at giving the same amount to a parish church. Synagogues are much more sensible: if you are not a paid, registered member of a synagogue, don't expect to stroll into it on Yom Kippur and get a seat ahead of someone who is there every Saturday and gives at least a modest donation every month.

[verga]

Doesn't everyone know this? How Old Is Your Church?

There is not a single credible historical source that believes that any other Christian church existed before the Catholic Church. We are the first and until the non-Catholics get that through there skulls discussion is darn near useless.

[kearnyirish2]

My diocese gets smeared in the news constantly because our soon-retiring archbishop has quite a lavish retirement home; that, coupled with the fact that this area has been hit hard by the recession, makes raising money difficult. I know I’m not in a position to give much; I’m the primary breadwinner with a family & mortgage (in an area with very high property taxes - not an expensive home), and I have debt to deal with. I see little reason to subsidize Catholic schools I can’t afford for my children while I’m barely scraping by; at this point we’ve gone from closing schools to closing parishes.

[ealgeone]

I have. That’s why I can say there is no Roman Catholic Church seen in the NT.

[ealgeone]

Yet you cannot point to a single verse that says what you claim and I e given you two already that the church existed well before the roman cathokic church.

[ealgeone]

Do you really think God cares how hold a church is? If you want to claim this as credibility for the rcc you’re on thin ice.

[utahagen]

I think Catholics have a right and a duty to ask about how the church spends its money; I think Catholics also have an obligation to donate money regularly. In fact, giving money consistently is the surest way to wield influence when nonsense goes on in a parish or diocese. I can’t comment on your particular situation, but I think everyone can give something to his local parish, even if it’s just $10 or $20 a month.

[verga]

I e given you two already that the church existed well before the roman cathokic church.

Those verse refer to the Catholic Church. So sola Scriptura is out the window, Now show me a legitimate SECULAR document that supports your opinion. I will accept sources such as the World Book Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia Britannica, etc...

In other words real sources.

[ealgeone]

>>I e given you two already that the church existed well before the roman cathokic church.<<

(correct spelling of cathokic to catholic)

Those verse refer to the Catholic Church. So sola Scriptura is out the window, Now show me a legitimate SECULAR document that supports your opinion. I will accept sources such as the World Book Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia Britannica, etc...

In other words real sources.

Utterly amazing.

From your statement one can only conclude you do not consider the Bible, God's Word, to be a "real source".

You will accept the words of secular man over the words of God on this.

God's word is either the final authority on Truth or it is not.

For the catholic apparently that is not the case.

Amazing.