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To: NRx

The only part I do not really understand is this:

” The crisis of traditional values which we see in the consumer society leads to a contradiction between various preferences, including those in the realm of family relationships.”

I am not sure I would frame it as a fault of the consumer society. It is an interesting perspective, but I don’t think that is really the heart of the problem. Perhaps in the sense that people are consuming filth, pornography and the like, they gain an appetite for deviancy. But if we follow what Romans teaches, I think it is more about a rebellion against God, denying Him and His authority, as a root cause. Consuming filth is just a symptom.


9 posted on 10/21/2015 5:40:37 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
” The crisis of traditional values which we see in the consumer society leads to a contradiction between various preferences, including those in the realm of family relationships.”

In a consumer society, the acquisition of material items is seen as the supreme good. You will sometimes see both Catholic and Orthodox sources as metaphorically extending this to persons as well.

There are those who will trade up to a newer model car each year or so, not because of a reliability issue but simply because it's the "new model." (We see that a lot with people who trade up to the new iPhone as soon as it happens)

What about the person who trades his wife in for a newer model?

What about a couple who choose to not have children because they would impact their lifestyle?

What about sex-selection abortions? Abortions because the child has some kind of a handicap? Abortions because the child's genes indicate the wrong hair color or a nose that will be too big?

And so on.

But if we follow what Romans teaches, I think it is more about a rebellion against God, denying Him and His authority, as a root cause.

Yes, because in the "consumer society," individuals make a choice to own material possessions (and to own people) as their god. And so it is actually a form of idolatry.

10 posted on 10/21/2015 6:08:32 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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