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To: Bob434

I have found Andy Stanley’s preaching style to be very different from his dad, but still very Biblical.

Can you point to any sermon or writing where Andy Stanley is heretical on the subject of homosexuality? I’d like to read or hear it for myself.


60 posted on 10/12/2015 9:29:04 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan

please be careful with Andy- He’s very subtle in his deviating from the word on many issues- You have to listen carefully to what and how he says things- most of his message does sound grounded I n the bible, however, you wil l find with careful listening that there is just something wrong with what he says at times- Again, it’s subtle, but it’s there- He’s also constantly saying “The bible is just a book- it’s not important- people In old testament didn’t even have the bible, it’s just a bunch of books all put together for convenience sake, and that’s not what’s important, your belief is what’s important etc etc etc- Listen for this and you will hear him constantly saying it- almsotl ike he’s trying ot drive people away from studying God’s word at times-

You can find an archive of his sermons online at the church he preaches at (who apparently told a gay dating couple they could not serve In church because they were still married to women and were ‘committing adultery’ by dating each other- the two got divorced from their wives, married each other, and now serve In another North Point Ministries church under that church- This isn’t because of andy, but it’s telling that andy still preaches at this church -

[[The most puzzling and shocking part of the message was the illustration and the account of the homosexual couple, however. The inescapable impression left by the account was that the sin of concern was adultery, but not homosexuality. Stanley clearly and repeatedly stressed the sin of adultery, but then left the reality of the homosexual relationship between the two men unaddressed as sin. To the contrary, he seemed to normalize their relationship. They would be allowed to serve on the host team if both were divorced. The moral status of their relationship seemed to be questioned only in terms of adultery, with no moral judgment on their homosexuality.]]

http://www.dennyburk.com/andy-stanley-the-megachurch-and-homosexuality/?utm_source=StandFirm&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=link

on the issue of Kentucky clerk he said:

[[“Evangelical pastor Andy Stanley leads North Point Ministries, the second largest church in the U.S. He told me he finds it “offensive that Christians would leverage faith to support the Kansas law.” He said, “Serving people we don’t see eye to eye with is the essence of Christianity. Jesus died for a world with which he didn’t see eye to eye. If a bakery doesn’t want to sell its products to a gay couple, it’s their business. Literally. But leave Jesus out of it.”]]

http://www.standfirminfaith.com/?/sf/page/31150

There’s more- but andy apparently has problems with the bible- He states for example that he believes in adam and eve not because the bible says they were real, but because Jesus said so- Stanley says this stuff all the time- Apparently not realizing that the bible IS the word of God, and the word of God- Stanley keeps downplaying the IS Jesus- Stanley keeps downplaying the importance of God’s word yet we know from God’s word that God’s word IS important

Timothy 3:16-17:

All Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.

[[But it’s also important to see that Jesus’ allusions to Adam and Eve derive from his belief in the authority of the Old Testament. As he assumes the historicity of Adam and Eve, he is at once affirming the total truthfulness and trustworthiness of his Bible—the Old Testament. ]]

From “Andy Stanley’s poison pill for the doctrine of scripture”

http://www.dennyburk.com/andy-stanleys-poison-pill-for-the-doctrine-of-scripture/?utm_source=StandFirm&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=link

Jesus reaffirms the truthfulness of the bible, Stanley downplays the bible time and again-

Like I said- Andy’s ideology is very subtle, and casually listening to his sermons, many of us will miss these things he says- because we aren’t listening for them- but He IS saying them and even reiterating them time and time again


104 posted on 10/12/2015 10:20:26 AM PDT by Bob434
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