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The Impractical Catholic’s Guide to Infallibility
Catholic Stand ^ | October 10, 2015 | Anthony S. Layne

Posted on 10/11/2015 12:22:10 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 10/11/2015 12:22:10 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...
Faith is ultimately an act of trust — trust in the truth of God, trust in the reliability of His Word, trust in the action of the Holy Spirit. The Church doesn’t ask you to trust the pope or the bishops; she asks you to trust in Christ’s promise that “the gate of Hades shall not prevail against” his Church (Matthew 16:18).

Catholic ping!

2 posted on 10/11/2015 12:23:08 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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The Church, the body of Christ, is made up of sinners, regardless of title or status, born after the flesh, imperfect vessels, redeemed by the blood of the Lamb...

Infallibility is an impossibility, due to our sin nature...

RCC history proves it...


3 posted on 10/11/2015 12:30:16 PM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: Popman
Infallibility is an impossibility, due to our sin nature...

The article is not that long. You might want to read it instead of posting an opinion.

RCC history proves it...

It would be helpful if you could support your statement by posingt some examples based on the definition of infallibility in this article. Many thanks.

4 posted on 10/11/2015 12:37:27 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: NYer

Wow, ya’ll can complicate something as clear as the Gospel message of faith in Christ.


5 posted on 10/11/2015 12:40:15 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Popman

Since you haven’t read the article, and are also ignorant of the subject matter, your rote anti-Catholic sloganeering—which happens to be completely off-topic—isn’t going to persuade anyone with any background knowledge.


6 posted on 10/11/2015 12:45:06 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: ealgeone

Spoken like a true barbarian anti-intellectual.


7 posted on 10/11/2015 12:45:53 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Alinsky would be proud of you.


8 posted on 10/11/2015 12:46:25 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: NYer

Read it...

love you too...bro


9 posted on 10/11/2015 12:47:35 PM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Read it...


10 posted on 10/11/2015 12:48:50 PM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: ealgeone

Your point is addressed brilliantly by Chesterton, in the chapter titled “The Usual Article.”

http://www.basilica.org/pages/ebooks/G.K.Chesterton-The%20Thing.pdf


11 posted on 10/11/2015 12:48:52 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: Popman

That’s the idea. The Church as Christ’s church on earth is infallible, thus in those issues of faith and morals it can’t change - even by a Pope. I sou;don’t crow about the faith that grew in the 16th century from the desire to divorce (Henry VIII) or marry (Luther, who instituted civil divorce), or become his own Pope (Calvin) or reject the sacrifice of the mass utterly, despite the first Christians insistence on it (Zwingli). I would say pray for the synod as the good Bishops holding up for the truth of the Gospel are in danger. As for the history of protestants, civil divorce is business as usual almost all of its 30,000 branches.


12 posted on 10/11/2015 12:51:20 PM PDT by Burkianfrombrklyn
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To: NYer

I trust in God. I have met wonderful priests, and some not so wonderful priests. History is laden with good and bad within the hierarchy of the Church. God is infallible. The human beings who populate the Church are not.

If we are humble enough to listen, there is always a voice inspiring us to truth, and to what is right. It’s not a very loud voice, and the world we all live in routinely drowns it out - but it is there. The idea that this voice speaks first to someone like the Pope, or ‘through’ the Pope to the rest of us, is not something I accept at any level - as a Catholic. This voice doesn’t speak preferentially to the hierarchy of any specific religion. It speaks to all of us. Most of us, including for sure myself in too many instances, ignore it.

If people like the Pope, or anyone who has dedicated themselves to God’s work, hear that voice before or more clearly than the rest of us, it’s because they’re listening harder, and have less worldly noise drowning out this voice.


13 posted on 10/11/2015 12:53:17 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Arthur McGowan

From muslim (lower case m on purpose) attacks on Catholics in the Middle East to verbal attacks on Catholics on FR, I’m strengthened in my belief in the one true Catholic and apostolic church. What they say and do regarding Catholicism says more about their own faith than it does about Catholicism.


14 posted on 10/11/2015 12:58:27 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: NYer

An article on “infallibility” fails to find a single verse of Scripture that states the church is infallible!


15 posted on 10/11/2015 12:59:35 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Amazing isn’t it.


16 posted on 10/11/2015 1:12:00 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
God is infallible. The human beings who populate the Church are not.

Nothing in the article says they are.

17 posted on 10/11/2015 1:22:23 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: ealgeone
Wow, ya’ll can complicate something as clear as the Gospel message of faith in Christ.

On the contrary, we follow the Gospel message and take it to heart, preaching and teaching it for 2000 years.

18 posted on 10/11/2015 1:29:31 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
The idea that this voice speaks first to someone like the Pope, or ‘through’ the Pope to the rest of us, is not something I accept at any level - as a Catholic.

Perhaps I missed it. Where in the above article does it state that God speaks to the pope?

19 posted on 10/11/2015 1:31:07 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Bookmark this to read later. I’ve tried to surf into Chesterton and will again.


20 posted on 10/11/2015 1:31:21 PM PDT by Mercat (You don't recommend better diet and exercise for a shark bite.)
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