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1 posted on 10/04/2015 10:39:26 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

The Vatican would lie? I’m shocked!


2 posted on 10/04/2015 10:41:51 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: marshmallow

I am tempted to say the Pope is a POS, but that might be harsh


4 posted on 10/04/2015 10:46:17 AM PDT by Chauncey Uppercrust (TRUMP/CRUZ 2016 OR BUST)
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To: marshmallow

Staver says Vatican personnel initiated contact with Davis’ camp on Sept. 14 saying the pope wanted to meet her. He says Vatican security picked up her and her husband up from their Washington hotel and brought her to the Vatican embassy.

He says Vatican officials told her to change her hairstyle so she wouldn’t be recognized since they wanted the encounter kept secret.

Staver disputed a Vatican spokesman’s claims that the pope only met with Davis in a receiving line.

He said the couple was in a room with only the pope and Vatican personnel.


5 posted on 10/04/2015 10:50:18 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: marshmallow

The pope seems to be a captive of the Vatican.


7 posted on 10/04/2015 10:52:01 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: marshmallow

Will there be another forced retirement?


8 posted on 10/04/2015 10:54:53 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: marshmallow

There isn’t definitive proof that’s been made public, but for many reasons I believe the story given by Davis and Liberty Counsel ahead of the Vatican’s version. A picture on the Liberty Counsel site which is said to be of Davis, her hair pulled up, being picked up by a Vatican car:

https://www.lc.org/newsroom/details/popes-words-and-meetings-support-conscientious-objection


9 posted on 10/04/2015 11:00:20 AM PDT by Faith Presses On ("After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations...")
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To: marshmallow

It sounds like the pope is surrounded by people who can’t be trusted.

Sad.


11 posted on 10/04/2015 11:14:44 AM PDT by marron
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To: marshmallow
He says Vatican personnel initiated contact with Davis’ camp on Sept. 14 saying the pope wanted to meet her. He says Vatican security picked up her and her husband up from their Washington hotel and brought her to the Vatican embassy. He says Vatican officials told her to change her hairstyle so she wouldn’t be recognized since they wanted the encounter kept secret.

Have they learned nothing from the child abuse cover-ups?

12 posted on 10/04/2015 11:19:31 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: marshmallow

I have to say, the point shouldn’t be her right to be a conscientious objector. It should be that no moral person could obey such a shockingly immoral judicial order, and that the judge who issued it should be removed from office.

That any Supreme Court ruling it purports to be based on is again so shockingly immoral that the justices themselves have lost all credibility and should themselves be removed.


13 posted on 10/04/2015 11:19:53 AM PDT by marron
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To: marshmallow

Something else that’s interesting is how often in the past the Pope’s words have been said to have been twisted, mistranslated, etc. One notable incident is the “who am I to judge?” controversy.

The Vatican quickly and publicly speaking out against the news about Kim Davis meeting the Pope shows that the Catholic leadership is able to clarify remarks when it chooses to.


15 posted on 10/04/2015 11:27:23 AM PDT by Faith Presses On ("After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations...")
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To: marshmallow

Knifed in the back by a Pope who asked to meet her.


17 posted on 10/04/2015 11:41:52 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: marshmallow

“He says Vatican officials told her to change her hairstyle so she wouldn’t be recognized since they wanted the encounter kept secret.”

Kim’s change of hairstyle proves that the Vatican approached her to ask if she could meet with the Pope.


18 posted on 10/04/2015 12:00:08 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: marshmallow

Having met Mat Stave and heard him speak on a few occasions, I would take his word over the Pope’s in NY minute.


19 posted on 10/04/2015 12:05:53 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: marshmallow

Nobody would be able to get on line to meet the Pope without a formal invite from the Vatican.


21 posted on 10/04/2015 12:10:24 PM PDT by kenmcg
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To: marshmallow

It’s a lousy day in my life when I believe a nice ordinary Kentucky lady over the Pope.


22 posted on 10/04/2015 12:22:18 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: marshmallow

I honestly don’t know what to make of this whole situation.


24 posted on 10/04/2015 1:17:06 PM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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